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Old 12-01-2007, 12:12 AM
ManChild ManChild is offline
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Default Re: Paul B (8:06:55 PM): Official STTF December Thread: General Discus

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Does this count as a stop n' go?

Poker Stars, $15 + $1 NL Hold'em Tournament, 300/600 Blinds, 2 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

Hero (BB): 9,680
SB: 3,820

Pre-Flop: (1,000) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
<font color="red">SB raises to 1,200</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to 2,400</font>, SB calls 1,200

Flop: (4,900) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets 1,800</font>, SB folds

Results: 4,900 Pot
Hero mucked T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and WON 4,900 (+2,450 NET)

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in no way does this qualify as a stop in go, as there was no 'stop'
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Old 12-01-2007, 12:21 AM
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Default Re: Paul B (8:06:55 PM): Official STTF December Thread: General Discus

What is this stop n go and how do i use it?
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Old 12-01-2007, 12:56 AM
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Default Re: Paul B (8:06:55 PM): Official STTF December Thread: General Discus

A stop n go is where you commit yourself by calling preflop and then push any flop in the hope for more fold equity then just shoving over preflop. This explains it pretty well.

You would be surprised what donks are capable of...
Poker Stars, $15 + $1 NL Hold'em Tournament, 200/400 Blinds, 3 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

SB: 6,495
Hero (BB): 1,775
BTN: 5,230

Pre-Flop: (675) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
BTN folds, <font color="red">SB raises to 1,200</font>, Hero calls 800

Flop: (2,475) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets 550 and is All-In</font>, SB folds

Results: 2,475 Pot
Hero mucked T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and WON 2,475 (+1,250 NET)

Edit: oops not a good example either, you are supposed act first on the flop.
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Old 12-01-2007, 12:58 AM
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Default Re: Paul B (8:06:55 PM): Official STTF December Thread: General Discus

LOL u cant stop n go in position
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Old 12-01-2007, 12:58 AM
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Default Re: Paul B (8:06:55 PM): Official STTF December Thread: General Discus

That's not really a good example. You need to be first to act after the flop.
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Old 12-01-2007, 01:01 AM
IFoldPktOnes IFoldPktOnes is offline
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Default Re: Paul B (8:06:55 PM): Official STTF December Thread: General Discus

Haha yeah I just realised, I just picked that hand randomly from my collection of great donkament moments [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]
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Old 12-01-2007, 01:15 AM
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Default Re: Paul B (8:06:55 PM): Official STTF December Thread: General Discus

Best part of the stop n go portion of the "book".
"Stop-and-gos are rare, and when they do arise, win very small amounts of equity because most of the time the result is identical to moving in preflop. The amount of discussion this play has generated online is way out of proportion to its value. If you are not already an advanced player, forget about stop-and-gos and concentrate on developing flawless basic skills. Once you have mastered the basics, it makes sense to add at least the risk-free stop-and-gos (such as the 22 example in the paragraph above) to your repertoire."
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Old 12-01-2007, 01:58 AM
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Default Re: Paul B (8:06:55 PM): Official STTF December Thread: General Discus

CheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeseMoney


I agree.
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Old 12-01-2007, 05:14 AM
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Default Re: Paul B (8:06:55 PM): Official STTF December Thread: General Discus

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Best part of the stop n go portion of the "book".
"Stop-and-gos are rare, and when they do arise, win very small amounts of equity because most of the time the result is identical to moving in preflop. The amount of discussion this play has generated online is way out of proportion to its value. If you are not already an advanced player, forget about stop-and-gos and concentrate on developing flawless basic skills. Once you have mastered the basics, it makes sense to add at least the risk-free stop-and-gos (such as the 22 example in the paragraph above) to your repertoire."

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That sounds spot on.
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