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11-15-2007, 07:16 PM
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Re: AC in America
I would not know of AC if I did not read these forums. I imagine most Americans have extremely limited exposure to AC.
Anarchy also seems to be a rather bad thing to desire. It's equal to chaos to a lot of people I talk to. In order to embrace a theory like AC, it seems you'd have to get over a lot of preconceptions you have over the way things work. You'd also have to understand economics and I'd venture to guess less than 1% of the entire population knows enough about microecon or macroecon to even CONSIDER AC an option. I'd guess that AC movement will gain popularity in the near future. The internet, the falling dollar, and the growing disdain for politics in many people would be more likely to increase the popularity of AC than decrease it imo. I'm an atheist with leanings towards AC fwiw. 
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11-15-2007, 07:38 PM
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Re: AC in America
Certainly the "movement" is extremely small and will only grow. As you guys said, 98%+ of people think "anarchy = chaos/Hell".
I think there is definitely some relationship with atheism. I'd be willing to bet that ACists are disproportionately atheists, and also the other way around a little bit, although most atheists are of course still in the high 90%'s regarding fear of anarchy. The relationship probably stems from intelligence, free thinking and anti-establishment leanings. I'm an anarchist but not necessarily a full anarcho-capitalist. I have problems with some aspects of how people say AC would work (one major example I can think of is something that was said here a while back about vaccines and how people who caught a disease from an unvaccinated person could then sue that person, which is [censored] retarded). I'm very anti-organized religion, but not quite atheist. I am currently reading Dawkins's "The God Delusion" to see if this can be remedied.
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11-17-2007, 02:40 PM
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Re: AC in America
[ QUOTE ]
Certainly the "movement" is extremely small and will only grow. As you guys said, 98%+ of people think "anarchy = chaos/Hell". I think there is definitely some relationship with atheism. I'd be willing to bet that ACists are disproportionately atheists, and also the other way around a little bit, although most atheists are of course still in the high 90%'s regarding fear of anarchy. The relationship probably stems from intelligence, free thinking and anti-establishment leanings. I'm an anarchist but not necessarily a full anarcho-capitalist. I have problems with some aspects of how people say AC would work (one major example I can think of is something that was said here a while back about vaccines and how people who caught a disease from an unvaccinated person could then sue that person, which is [censored] retarded). I'm very anti-organized religion, but not quite atheist. I am currently reading Dawkins's "The God Delusion" to see if this can be remedied. [/ QUOTE ] ACists cannot be atheists. They believe religously in the omnipotence of the free market, as zealously as catholics do in the old man in the sky. There is evidence that their faith is unfounded, while you can't prove there is no god, yet they cling to their faith. Different god, same fallacies.
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11-17-2007, 02:44 PM
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Re: AC in America
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] Certainly the "movement" is extremely small and will only grow. As you guys said, 98%+ of people think "anarchy = chaos/Hell". I think there is definitely some relationship with atheism. I'd be willing to bet that ACists are disproportionately atheists, and also the other way around a little bit, although most atheists are of course still in the high 90%'s regarding fear of anarchy. The relationship probably stems from intelligence, free thinking and anti-establishment leanings. I'm an anarchist but not necessarily a full anarcho-capitalist. I have problems with some aspects of how people say AC would work (one major example I can think of is something that was said here a while back about vaccines and how people who caught a disease from an unvaccinated person could then sue that person, which is [censored] retarded). I'm very anti-organized religion, but not quite atheist. I am currently reading Dawkins's "The God Delusion" to see if this can be remedied. [/ QUOTE ] ACists cannot be atheists. They believe religously in the omnipotence of the free market, as zealously as catholics do in the old man in the sky. There is evidence that their faith is unfounded, while you can't prove there is no god, yet they cling to their faith. Different god, same fallacies. [/ QUOTE ] Well I'm an ACist and I don't believe that the market is omnipotent.
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#5
11-17-2007, 02:48 PM
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Re: AC in America
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Certainly the "movement" is extremely small and will only grow. As you guys said, 98%+ of people think "anarchy = chaos/Hell". I think there is definitely some relationship with atheism. I'd be willing to bet that ACists are disproportionately atheists, and also the other way around a little bit, although most atheists are of course still in the high 90%'s regarding fear of anarchy. The relationship probably stems from intelligence, free thinking and anti-establishment leanings. I'm an anarchist but not necessarily a full anarcho-capitalist. I have problems with some aspects of how people say AC would work (one major example I can think of is something that was said here a while back about vaccines and how people who caught a disease from an unvaccinated person could then sue that person, which is [censored] retarded). I'm very anti-organized religion, but not quite atheist. I am currently reading Dawkins's "The God Delusion" to see if this can be remedied. [/ QUOTE ] ACists cannot be atheists. They believe religously in the omnipotence of the free market, as zealously as catholics do in the old man in the sky. There is evidence that their faith is unfounded, while you can't prove there is no god, yet they cling to their faith. Different god, same fallacies. [/ QUOTE ] Well I'm an ACist and I don't believe that the market is omnipotent. [/ QUOTE ] Then you're not devout.
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#6
11-17-2007, 02:51 PM
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Re: AC in America
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Certainly the "movement" is extremely small and will only grow. As you guys said, 98%+ of people think "anarchy = chaos/Hell". I think there is definitely some relationship with atheism. I'd be willing to bet that ACists are disproportionately atheists, and also the other way around a little bit, although most atheists are of course still in the high 90%'s regarding fear of anarchy. The relationship probably stems from intelligence, free thinking and anti-establishment leanings. I'm an anarchist but not necessarily a full anarcho-capitalist. I have problems with some aspects of how people say AC would work (one major example I can think of is something that was said here a while back about vaccines and how people who caught a disease from an unvaccinated person could then sue that person, which is [censored] retarded). I'm very anti-organized religion, but not quite atheist. I am currently reading Dawkins's "The God Delusion" to see if this can be remedied. [/ QUOTE ] ACists cannot be atheists. They believe religously in the omnipotence of the free market, as zealously as catholics do in the old man in the sky. There is evidence that their faith is unfounded, while you can't prove there is no god, yet they cling to their faith. Different god, same fallacies. [/ QUOTE ] Well I'm an ACist and I don't believe that the market is omnipotent. [/ QUOTE ] Then you're not devout. [/ QUOTE ] So you retract your previous statement?
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#7
11-17-2007, 03:20 PM
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Re: AC in America
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Certainly the "movement" is extremely small and will only grow. As you guys said, 98%+ of people think "anarchy = chaos/Hell". I think there is definitely some relationship with atheism. I'd be willing to bet that ACists are disproportionately atheists, and also the other way around a little bit, although most atheists are of course still in the high 90%'s regarding fear of anarchy. The relationship probably stems from intelligence, free thinking and anti-establishment leanings. I'm an anarchist but not necessarily a full anarcho-capitalist. I have problems with some aspects of how people say AC would work (one major example I can think of is something that was said here a while back about vaccines and how people who caught a disease from an unvaccinated person could then sue that person, which is [censored] retarded). I'm very anti-organized religion, but not quite atheist. I am currently reading Dawkins's "The God Delusion" to see if this can be remedied. [/ QUOTE ] ACists cannot be atheists. They believe religously in the omnipotence of the free market, as zealously as catholics do in the old man in the sky. There is evidence that their faith is unfounded, while you can't prove there is no god, yet they cling to their faith. Different god, same fallacies. [/ QUOTE ] Well I'm an ACist and I don't believe that the market is omnipotent. [/ QUOTE ] Then you're not devout. [/ QUOTE ] So you retract your previous statement? [/ QUOTE ] Uhhhh no, why would saying youre not a devout ACist be a retraction?
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#8
11-17-2007, 02:51 PM
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Well I'm an ACist and I don't believe that the market is omnipotent. [/ QUOTE ] You mean because you think a free market will work better than centralized planning you don't necessarily believe your side is omnipotent and perfect!?!?! WHOA. I actually have to take two deep breaths and think about that for a moment. ENLIGHTENING.
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