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(1) GoldenEye 88 84.62%
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Old 10-12-2007, 07:54 AM
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what a great thread!
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Old 10-12-2007, 07:55 AM
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I have a big big problem with this.

I don't see that big leaks in his stats. Low cbet%, somewhat low preflop aggression, high w$ at SD but otherwise they aren't really a losing players stats. Nothing jumps out immediately.

I guess it's just not evident in the stats though it is quite evident in the pokerEV graph.

P.S. Fgators - I salute your perseverance. Seriously. Now go and invest all that effort into something you can actually become good at and inform BBV on a regular basis. Just pick something else that you like to do; anything but poker and there's a good chance you will succeed.
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Old 10-12-2007, 07:57 AM
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have you ever played a hand against someone and then said after, "wtf are they doing?"

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Old 10-12-2007, 07:59 AM
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the biggest leaks won't show in his stats(his c-bet % tho is a pretty big leak). his leaks will show up in postflop play and will only be noticed if you play w/ him or review actual hands.
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Old 10-12-2007, 08:05 AM
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I'm confused by the ev graph. The original exponent graph shows him as a winning player until around hand 500k.

The ev graph that was posted is only 143k hands but has him stuck ~5k. Were these 143k hands not from the beginning of the x-axis or am I missing something?
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Old 10-12-2007, 08:06 AM
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what an awesome thread. Just want to be a part of it.
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Old 10-12-2007, 08:06 AM
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I'm confused by the ev graph. The original exponent graph shows him as a winning player until around hand 500k.

The ev graph that was posted is only 143k hands but has him stuck ~5k. Were these 143k hands not from the beginning of the x-axis or am I missing something?

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The EV graph is taking from a random sample of hands. I dont have the original HH files in chronological order, so I wouldnt know which one to import first to get the actual beginning of the graph.
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Old 10-12-2007, 08:09 AM
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the biggest leaks won't show in his stats(his c-bet % tho is a pretty big leak). his leaks will show up in postflop play and will only be noticed if you play w/ him or review actual hands.

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Yes, but you can be fairly sure that the mindset that causes his c-bet% to be so low is f*ing up his game in lots of other ways. A leak like that doesnt exist in isolation.
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Old 10-12-2007, 08:09 AM
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what an awesome thread. Just want to be a part of it.

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Old 10-12-2007, 08:10 AM
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I'm confused by the ev graph. The original exponent graph shows him as a winning player until around hand 500k.

The ev graph that was posted is only 143k hands but has him stuck ~5k. Were these 143k hands not from the beginning of the x-axis or am I missing something?

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The EV graph is taking from a random sample of hands. I dont have the original HH files in chronological order, so I wouldnt know which one to import first to get the actual beginning of the graph.

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Gotcha. It's like the prologue to a great American tragedy.
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