"Official" Live at the Bike thread (Week of 11/13) (Fri. 10-20 NL)

[Infinite1]

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They've got to stop letting those two play at the same table. Trish raises the other two players out of the pot. Then Mike and Trish tell each other what their hands are and check it down.

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ya who wants to see that crap, only risk is losing mike who is obv why a lot of people watch. I wanna see both of them get stacked by someone when they soft play their hands, maybe that will teach them.

[Jive Dadson]

I always thought that "fundamental theorem" was kind of stupid. Why put probabilities on what cards are coming, but not on what cards your opponent might have? The best play ultimately would be to play the hand as you would if you knew both what your opponent had and which cards were coming. But since you don't know either, you have to go with probabilities. (Yes, I am a card carrying Bayesian.)

[Jive Dadson]

Alan has gone all doofus again. Or maybe he's been doofus all along.

[Infinite1]

How the hell is AJ on that board a unbelievable value bet against alan who has shown no strength. Remember alan doesn't like flops with 2 suits on it and will protect his hand, Unbelievable no, good maybe... I bet that river given the way the hand goes down 100%

[Infinite1]

BTW bart and dave you guys give way to much credit, just because you guys think on a higher level than 85% of anyone that plays in this game....

[Jive Dadson]

How about putting the camera on the guy who bet and keeping quiet?

[Jive Dadson]

This is so frustrating.

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I always thought that "fundamental theorem" was kind of stupid. Why put probabilities on what cards are coming, but not on what cards your opponent might have? The best play ultimately would be to play the hand as you would if you knew both what your opponent had and which cards were coming. But since you don't know either, you have to go with probabilities. (Yes, I am a card carrying Bayesian.)

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I would be a Bayesian too if I could trust my priors. What has always bugged me about the "fundamental" theorem is that I don't believe he ever proved it.

[Jive Dadson]

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I would be a Bayesian too if I could trust my priors. What has always bugged me about the "fundamental" theorem is that I don't believe he ever proved it.

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You could seldom value-bet top pair no kicker in position on the river if you couldn't trust your priors. :-)

The concept of betting only rather good hands or bluffing in that position has to do with optimal strategy. It has nothing to do with exploiting leaks from particular (or typical) players. (A truly optimal strategy at hold'em is impossible to figure out, but we can dream.)

[Jive Dadson]

Can't hang around any longer tonight. Rib me later. Night all.