600/1200 river

[moneyshot]

results anyone?

[Clayton]

excuse me LHE retardedness, but isn't NW's susceptibility to do spaztarded stuff justification enough to bet/call this river?

[whodaman]

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excuse me LHE retardedness, but isn't NW's susceptibility to do spaztarded stuff justification enough to bet/call this river?

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i 2nd this
is he really prone to 3bet the turn and than c/r the river playing live?(with jt)

I would bet/call as i can't imagine checking this behind. I would save checking behind for all the AJ and AT hands i misplay the turn with

[jgorham]

I have trouble comparing the likelihood of him checking to raise to checking to call (with a worse hand) since both lines are unusual, and both legitimate for NW. So I would probably just put him on a range of (legit) hands and disregard the fact that he checked on the river and make the play that compares best against his hand range.

Even if we put K5s in his range, your equity is really low since there aren't many hands that make sense. After his bet 3bet I give him JTs, A5s, 55, and possibly K5s. And your equity is at about 25%. I don't think the check on the end really changes that hand range since he could check with any of those hands, so I check behind.

[cartman]

The fact that so many people are agonizing over whether to bet here is exactly why you should bet. Think of it from Neverwin's perspective. You haven't exactly telecast that your hand is as strong as it is here. You open raised on the button, continuation bet the flop, peeled, and then raised the turn and called a 3-bet. He has to assume that if he bets the river you will call nearly always. So for him to conclude that going for a checkraise on the river is superior to just betting, he would have to think you will bet/call at least half of the time or bluff a fair amount of hands that wouldn't have called had he bet. Neither of these is very plausible which tells me you are very likely to have the best hand here. Likely enough to merit a value bet in my opinion.

[mntbikr15]

Ive never played Neverwin...but there are very few people who I wouldnt Bet/Call this river against with the given action.

[Bill King]

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excuse me LHE retardedness, but isn't NW's susceptibility to do spaztarded stuff justification enough to bet/call this river?

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[Abbaddabba]

Why would anyone in his situation checkraise the river with a better hand?

I think you have one of the worst hands that he would expect you to value bet the river with if checked to that you could conceivably have, and even with that you are considering checking behind. Anything better on the turn, and it's going 4 bets earlier.

I'd expect him to have some one pair type hands like Kx or Ax, checking with the intent to fold and occasionally calling out of desparation.

[Chris Daddy Cool]

i dunno abou nw, but this is exactly what i would do with JT vs schneids here.

[johnnyrocket]

depends how he sees you, you are aggressive so he could easily be trapping you with a made hand. I think betting has a little more equity than checking, efinitely an interesting hand