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Old 03-15-2007, 05:18 PM
RichGambler RichGambler is offline
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Default My TAG graph - Want to see LAG graph 25 VPIP+ full ring

My stats full ring are:

9 tabling at the time

~ 13 VPIP
~ 7.5% PFR
Attempt to steal blinds ~25%
Aggression factor ~ 6.5
Won$ at SD ~59%
Went to SD ~22%

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Old 03-15-2007, 05:42 PM
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Default Re: My TAG graph - Want to see LAG graph 25 VPIP+ full ring

In order to prove what?
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Old 03-15-2007, 06:00 PM
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Default Re: My TAG graph - Want to see LAG graph 25 VPIP+ full ring

I have not played online since the gambling bill; and when I did I played tight on 12 tables at a time so I have no graph for you. I do play loose aggressive live and it is extremely profitable. Instead of getting some retard to post a 20k graph where he runs hot why not explain to all of us idiots why it is impossible to show a profit playing loose and aggressive? Then we could actually know what we are arguing against. As it is we are all trying to prove that red is red to someone who is colorblind.
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Old 03-15-2007, 06:17 PM
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Default Re: My TAG graph - Want to see LAG graph 25 VPIP+ full ring

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In order to prove what?

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to see a losing graph? lol
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Old 03-15-2007, 07:40 PM
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Default Re: My TAG graph - Want to see LAG graph 25 VPIP+ full ring

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Well I am hearing all the time from LAG's that TAG style is basicly ABC. Very predictable and so easy to exploit.

So I want to see a graph of LAG player at least 20k hands and 4BB how exactly does it look. Are there 300BB+ swings, how ofter they happen if you play LAG style and other things....

So if you are LAG who has 25 VPIP full ring with 4BB/100+ can you post graph?

Thanks
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Old 03-15-2007, 08:37 PM
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Default Re: My TAG graph - Want to see LAG graph 25 VPIP+ full ring

Lol... you really have some kind of victim complex.

I'll do some more therapy: TAG is great! And so are your results!
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Old 03-15-2007, 08:43 PM
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Default Re: My TAG graph - Want to see LAG graph 25 VPIP+ full ring

Doesn't this belong on the brags section?
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Old 03-15-2007, 11:11 PM
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Default Re: My TAG graph - Want to see LAG graph 25 VPIP+ full ring

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My stats full ring are:

9 tabling at the time

~ 13 VPIP
~ 7.5% PFR
Attempt to steal blinds ~25%
Aggression factor ~ 6.5
Won$ at SD ~59%
Went to SD ~22%

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Why does that not sound right?

Edit : sorry - lol full ring
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Old 03-16-2007, 01:50 AM
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Default Re: My TAG graph - Want to see LAG graph 25 VPIP+ full ring

I don't think OP is asking anything unreasonable, just wants to see what the swings look like for a comparable winner who plays LAG at those limits... just need to post what those limits are.
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Old 03-16-2007, 09:31 AM
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Default Re: My TAG graph - Want to see LAG graph 25 VPIP+ full ring

I'm glad you posted that, it was interesting!

Frankly, I don't know/don't care about whether I am TAG or LAG, I just try to be opportunistic, but against calling stations usually raising for value is right, not bluffing.

However, I am a very aggressive player, and am often 'perceived' as looser, than the normal somewhat Rocky TAG types. So frankly on the TAG/LAG labels, I dont' care! I think Opportunistic or Selective is better adjective than tight-loose, certainly I test folders as well as value bet.

Anyway, my figures come out similar. I have seen flat spots, weird games where I had to totally adjust play (away from SSHE) and all sorts.

In general in long run, >10bb/100 and fluctuations no greater than 200bb.

Most of the players, who were too loose in my view, probably style themselves as LAGs (rather than bluffy fish) noticeably would have a half-life of a few months.

Not many of the 'skilled' players, played any looser than SSHE suggested, but obviously everyone avoided tight games, but looked for fishy loose games.

Fact is, Poker even FL poker is situational, so what do stats mean? It's how you play relevant to the games you face that matters, and loosening up or tightening up can both be correct.
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