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Old 11-13-2007, 07:52 PM
Casper05 Casper05 is offline
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[censored], AA being in his range doesnt really change things for me...because if he's played AA like a donkey before, he's more than capable of playing JJ like one now.
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Old 11-13-2007, 07:56 PM
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Default Re: KK vs cold-calling TAG

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This just doesn't feel like a set for some reason -

- A set will want to get it all in by the river (especially this deep) - he has barely over one PSB left on the river ($163 behind in a $153 pot), so why isn't he shoving the river?

- He has position and a fairly dry flop - why not wait until you fire a second barrel on the turn before raising - he can make a bigger raise and you'll be much more committed at that point.

I think I'd look him up and expect to see AQ here a decent percentage of the time.

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Pretty much my thoughts exactly, especially given how passively you have played your KK here. AQ must be a huge part of his range.
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Old 11-13-2007, 07:58 PM
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[censored], AA being in his range doesnt really change things for me...because if he's played AA like a donkey before, he's more than capable of playing JJ like one now.

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What?
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Old 11-13-2007, 07:58 PM
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like 300000 posts and noones asked about sb yet?
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Old 11-13-2007, 08:00 PM
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if he's played AA like a donkey before, he's more than capable of playing JJ like one now.

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c'mon, you can't be serious?
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Old 11-13-2007, 08:07 PM
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haha, ok not JJ...but yes I am serious when I say that just bc AA is now in his range doesnt make it a fold...If you are going to extend his range one way because of 1 hand (that played weird anyway bc it was a blind battle) then you have to extend it at least a little the other way as well.
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Old 11-13-2007, 08:07 PM
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like 300000 posts and noones asked about sb yet?

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umm... is sb a lady-boy?
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Old 11-13-2007, 08:10 PM
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Anyway, there's no reason to think AA is still in his range here 240BB deep and not closing the action. The circumstances of the previous hand were probably different.
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Old 11-13-2007, 08:25 PM
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Clear fold. That turn and river bet are begging for value. I don't think he's triple barrel bluffing here, and I don't think he is value betting a worse hand when he can close the action in a massive pot. What would he do if you pushed? Obviously call, so he is willing to risk the rest of his stack to win a 99$ bet when he could just check behind, without a read that he is a complete moron this is an easy fold.
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Old 11-13-2007, 10:13 PM
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name one hand in heros range that pays off vs AQ

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also nobody has even attempted to answer this question...
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