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Old 11-17-2007, 11:01 AM
hirschi hirschi is offline
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Default icm tells me to call but i dont like it (15+1)

u call this normaly?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (8 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

MP2 (t2580)
CO (t2720)
Button (t1075)
SB (t1150)
Hero (t2620)
UTG (t1540)
UTG+1 (t445)
MP1 (t1370)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t2720</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero
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Old 11-17-2007, 11:14 AM
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Default Re: icm tells me to call but i dont like it (15+1)

unless CO has been the biggest nit in the world i instacall
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Old 11-17-2007, 03:22 PM
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Default Re: icm tells me to call but i dont like it (15+1)

It's close. Obviously would depend on reads. He won't be super wide here. He does have a hand he's willing to play for stacks with, when he could be making a standard raise.

I think it's probably a fold. But again, reads are important in poker.
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Old 11-17-2007, 04:14 PM
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Default Re: icm tells me to call but i dont like it (15+1)

remember u can usually subtract AA, KK, QQ from peoples ranges here
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Old 11-17-2007, 04:55 PM
fanapathy fanapathy is offline
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Default Re: icm tells me to call but i dont like it (15+1)

How the hell is this a call ?

How does ICM tell you that this is a call ? You put him on 20% or something ?

Fold, I really do not think this is the spot to call off. Yeah he can have any pair, unlikely lower than 55, but so many more times overcards; we're flipping against his range. Unless he's doing that all the time there's no need to get involved there. Have TT to call, if I read correctly that this is 100/200.
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Old 11-17-2007, 05:01 PM
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Default Re: icm tells me to call but i dont like it (15+1)

thats exactly my point apathy
at this level (remember its a 15$) i have seen people do that with any pair and crap like A5s and A8o
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Old 11-17-2007, 07:14 PM
HajiShirazu HajiShirazu is offline
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Default Re: icm tells me to call but i dont like it (15+1)

I think he has like 77-JJ, AJ-AK. So I would probably fold this and call with tens.
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Old 11-18-2007, 01:47 AM
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Default Re: icm tells me to call but i dont like it (15+1)

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I think he has like 77-JJ, AJ-AK. So I would probably fold this and call with tens.

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hmm this must be wrong. if he has that range you are flipping vs his pair range and ahead of his high cards so its a call.



anyways i call intuitively but its close. im rusty but we are enough handed where bubbble effects dont factor in enough. this is a snap call with JJ, an easy all with TT, and i thnk a slim call with 99.
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Old 11-17-2007, 07:37 PM
Rick Diesel Rick Diesel is offline
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Default Re: icm tells me to call but i dont like it (15+1)

I think this is a pretty easy call. He has an underpair or hand such as A6s way more often than people think.
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Old 11-17-2007, 08:21 PM
crystalallen crystalallen is offline
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Default Re: icm tells me to call but i dont like it (15+1)

If I folded this I would sit there for the next few rounds, being blinded out, looking at all the 74o and various other crap hands I'm getting and wishing I had played my nines.

But don't listen to me, I don't even know what ICM does.
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