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[diebitter]

midstakes PLO is crazy, but here's how to turn $180 into $1900 in less than 20 minutes...

(apologies for no hand conversion, I couldn't get it to work):


PokerStars Game #13408302492: Omaha Pot Limit ($3/$6) - 2007/11/22 - 22:03:21 (ET) Table 'Irus' 9-max Seat #2 is the button Seat 1: **Tycoon** ($531.40 in chips) Seat 2: 1Do2Den007 ($1302.15 in chips) Seat 3: NOXQZEZ ($302.80 in chips) Seat 4: alexia18 ($1453.30 in chips) Seat 5: OO-Nasty ($379 in chips) Seat 6: diebitter ($186.65 in chips) Seat 7: Sodom ($88.80 in chips) Seat 8: mnbvcxy ($738.70 in chips) Seat 9: Stud ($243 in chips)
NOXQZEZ: posts small blind $3
alexia18: posts big blind $6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to diebitter [Jd 5s Qh Ah]
OO-Nasty: calls $6
diebitter: calls $6
Sodom: folds
mnbvcxy: folds
Stud: folds
**Tycoon**: calls $6
1Do2Den007: folds
NOXQZEZ: calls $3
alexia18: checks
*** FLOP *** [5h 2c 9h]
NOXQZEZ: checks
alexia18: checks
OO-Nasty: checks
diebitter: bets $28.50
**Tycoon**: folds
NOXQZEZ: folds
alexia18: calls $28.50
OO-Nasty: folds
*** TURN *** [5h 2c 9h] [Ad]
alexia18: checks
1Do2Den007 is sitting out
diebitter: bets $84
alexia18: calls $84
*** RIVER *** [5h 2c 9h Ad] [6h]
1Do2Den007 leaves the table
alexia18: bets $252
diebitter: calls $68.15 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
alexia18: shows [3h Ac Jh 3c] (a flush, Jack high)
diebitter: shows [Jd 5s Qh Ah] (a flush, Ace high) diebitter collected $388.30 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $391.30 | Rake $3
Board [5h 2c 9h Ad 6h]
Seat 1: **Tycoon** folded on the Flop
Seat 2: 1Do2Den007 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 3: NOXQZEZ (small blind) folded on the Flop Seat 4: alexia18 (big blind) showed [3h Ac Jh 3c] and lost with a flush, Jack high Seat 5: OO-Nasty folded on the Flop Seat 6: diebitter showed [Jd 5s Qh Ah] and won ($388.30) with a flush, Ace high Seat 7: Sodom folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: mnbvcxy folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 9: Stud folded before Flop (didn't bet)

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PokerStars Game #13408325420: Omaha Pot Limit ($3/$6) - 2007/11/22 - 22:04:45 (ET) Table 'Irus' 9-max Seat #3 is the button Seat 1: **Tycoon** ($525.40 in chips) Seat 3: NOXQZEZ ($296.80 in chips) Seat 4: alexia18 ($1266.65 in chips) Seat 5: OO-Nasty ($373 in chips) Seat 6: diebitter ($388.30 in chips) Seat 7: Sodom ($88.80 in chips) Seat 8: mnbvcxy ($738.70 in chips) Seat 9: Stud ($243 in chips)
alexia18: posts small blind $3
nutsbabys joins the table at seat #2
OO-Nasty: posts big blind $6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to diebitter [5d Qd Ts Jd]
diebitter: calls $6
Sodom: calls $6
mnbvcxy: folds
Stud: calls $6
**Tycoon**: folds
NOXQZEZ: folds
alexia18: calls $3
OO-Nasty: checks
*** FLOP *** [8h Tc 9h]
alexia18: checks
OO-Nasty: checks
diebitter: bets $28.50
Sodom: raises $54.30 to $82.80 and is all-in
Stud: raises $154.20 to $237 and is all-in
alexia18: folds
OO-Nasty: folds
diebitter: calls $208.50
*** TURN *** [8h Tc 9h] [2c]
*** RIVER *** [8h Tc 9h 2c] [8d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
diebitter: shows [5d Qd Ts Jd] (a straight, Eight to Queen)
Stud: shows [Jc Kd Qc Kh] (a straight, Eight to Queen) diebitter collected $154.20 from side pot Stud collected $154.20 from side pot
Sodom: mucks hand
diebitter collected $137.70 from main pot Stud collected $137.70 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $586.80 Main pot $275.40. Side pot $308.40. | Rake $3 Board [8h Tc 9h 2c 8d] Seat 1: **Tycoon** folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 3: NOXQZEZ (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: alexia18 (small blind) folded on the Flop Seat 5: OO-Nasty (big blind) folded on the Flop Seat 6: diebitter showed [5d Qd Ts Jd] and won ($291.90) with a straight, Eight to Queen Seat 7: Sodom mucked [9c Ac Qh Th] Seat 8: mnbvcxy folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 9: Stud showed [Jc Kd Qc Kh] and won ($291.90) with a straight, Eight to Queen

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PokerStars Game #13408462539: Omaha Pot Limit ($3/$6) - 2007/11/22 - 22:13:02 (ET) Table 'Irus' 9-max Seat #2 is the button Seat 1: **Tycoon** ($552.40 in chips) Seat 2: nutsbabys ($444 in chips) Seat 3: NOXQZEZ ($278.80 in chips) Seat 4: alexia18 ($1139.15 in chips) Seat 5: OO-Nasty ($391.15 in chips) Seat 6: diebitter ($407.20 in chips) Seat 7: AABassMaster ($172.20 in chips) Seat 9: ckl555 ($150 in chips)
NOXQZEZ: posts small blind $3
alexia18: posts big blind $6
ckl555: posts big blind $6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to diebitter [2h 5d 9c 5c]
OO-Nasty: folds
diebitter: calls $6
AABassMaster: folds
ckl555: checks
**Tycoon**: raises $18 to $24
nutsbabys: folds
NOXQZEZ: folds
alexia18: calls $18
diebitter: calls $18
ckl555: folds
*** FLOP *** [8d 5h Th]
alexia18: checks
diebitter: bets $78
**Tycoon**: folds
alexia18: calls $78
*** TURN *** [8d 5h Th] [Kd]
alexia18: checks
diebitter: bets $234
alexia18: calls $234
*** RIVER *** [8d 5h Th Kd] [Jd]
alexia18: bets $702
diebitter: calls $71.20 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
alexia18: shows [3c Jh 2s Kh] (two pair, Kings and Jacks)
diebitter: shows [2h 5d 9c 5c] (three of a kind, Fives) diebitter collected $844.40 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $847.40 | Rake $3
Board [8d 5h Th Kd Jd]
Seat 1: **Tycoon** folded on the Flop
Seat 2: nutsbabys (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 3: NOXQZEZ (small blind) folded before Flop Seat 4: alexia18 (big blind) showed [3c Jh 2s Kh] and lost with two pair, Kings and Jacks Seat 5: OO-Nasty folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: diebitter showed [2h 5d 9c 5c] and won ($844.40) with three of a kind, Fives Seat 7: AABassMaster folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 9: ckl555 folded before Flop

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PokerStars Game #13408582922: Omaha Pot Limit ($3/$6) - 2007/11/22 - 22:20:21 (ET) Table 'Irus' 9-max Seat #7 is the button Seat 1: **Tycoon** ($504.45 in chips) Seat 2: nutsbabys ($438 in chips) Seat 3: NOXQZEZ ($269.80 in chips) Seat 4: alexia18 ($874.10 in chips) Seat 5: OO-Nasty ($313.40 in chips) Seat 6: diebitter ($832.40 in chips) Seat 7: AABassMaster ($46.15 in chips) Seat 9: ckl555 ($243.10 in chips)
ckl555: posts small blind $3
**Tycoon**: posts big blind $6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to diebitter [Kd Kh Ah Qd]
nutsbabys: folds
NOXQZEZ: folds
alexia18: calls $6
OO-Nasty: folds
diebitter: raises $21 to $27
AABassMaster: folds
ckl555: raises $66 to $93
**Tycoon**: folds
alexia18: calls $87
diebitter: calls $66
*** FLOP *** [Ks 6d 9s]
ckl555: bets $150.10 and is all-in
alexia18: calls $150.10
diebitter: raises $589.30 to $739.40 and is all-in
alexia18: calls $589.30
*** TURN *** [Ks 6d 9s] [5s]
*** RIVER *** [Ks 6d 9s 5s] [3c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
alexia18: shows [Jc Td 5c Qc] (a pair of Fives)
diebitter: shows [Kd Kh Ah Qd] (three of a kind, Kings) diebitter collected $1178.60 from side pot
ckl555: mucks hand
diebitter collected $732.30 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1913.90 Main pot $732.30. Side pot $1178.60. | Rake $3 Board [Ks 6d 9s 5s 3c] Seat 1: **Tycoon** (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 2: nutsbabys folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 3: NOXQZEZ folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: alexia18 showed [Jc Td 5c Qc] and lost with a pair of Fives Seat 5: OO-Nasty folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: diebitter showed [Kd Kh Ah Qd] and won ($1910.90) with three of a kind, Kings Seat 7: AABassMaster (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 9: ckl555 (small blind) mucked [Ac Ad 7h 9h]

[tuq]

What is going on in that last hand? Did alexia like somehow forget that they only get to play two cards from their hand and that they thought they flopped the straight? Otherwise they made no pair, had no flush draw, and only had an inside straight draw. Sheesh, Omaha makes my head hurt.

[diebitter]

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What is going on in that last hand? Did alexia like somehow forget that they only get to play two cards from their hand and that they thought they flopped the straight? Otherwise they made no pair, had no flush draw, and only had an inside straight draw. Sheesh, Omaha makes my head hurt.

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it's not exactly a straight draw, it's 9 outs to the nut straight. twice. However it was discounted by the two spades, so really it has like 6 clean outs. Not a good bet.

[Blarg]

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Fish:

It is very intimidating at first. But here is the BIG SECRET:

No Limit is WAY WAY WAY easier to learn than Limit, once you get used the money going all in.

1-- Download Poker Stove. It is incredibly useful.

2-- Think about it. If you are playing 3/6 live, you will on average, for a hand you believe you will win, spend 3+3+3+6+6= 21 dollars. If you are playing live 40 max, you will be putting in half your stack when you have a winner. Once you get the big stack, the game starts becoming super fun.

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Yeah, being the big stack -- or even the small stack -- bully is very fun in poker, and it can be really profitable.

I think no-limit is a way better game than limit too.

I don't think I've even played anything but the rare tournament in like almost two years. I wish Party would come back for Americans. I still have just a couple bucks left on Pokerstars, and am hesitant to put any more money anywhere with the laws going nutty on us like they have.

[tuq]

db,

Whoops, that's why I suck at and avoid even looking at Omaha, I missed half the outs.