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Old 08-31-2007, 06:09 AM
luckbalks luckbalks is offline
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Default MP + FD on Flop, miss on the turn... check or shove?

Villain is 35/26/3 raising a ton and seems pretty good.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $444.60
BB: $413.75
UTG: $225.20
MP: $338.60
CO: $199.15
Hero (BTN): $211.15

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $8.00</font>, CO folds, Hero calls $8.00, SB folds, BB calls $6.00

Flop: ($25) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">MP bets $21.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $68.00</font>, BB folds, MP calls $47.00

Turn: ($161) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, <font color="red">Hero ?</font>
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Old 08-31-2007, 06:15 AM
Bulletproof Monk Bulletproof Monk is offline
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Default Re: MP + FD on Flop, miss on the turn... check or shove?

shove and hate it. if the flush hits the river he isnt paying us off if we check here, and he has a lot of overpair type hands to which the A is a scarecard
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Old 08-31-2007, 06:17 AM
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Default Re: MP + FD on Flop, miss on the turn... check or shove?

I'd fold pf.
Do you think you have fold equity here ??
What's his range for calling your flop raise ? overapairs, flush draws, Tx.
He's not folding the nut flush draw now that he has top pair, prolly folding flush draws and Tx if you shove if he's good.
I think it is close, I'd push.
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Old 08-31-2007, 06:28 AM
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Default Re: MP + FD on Flop, miss on the turn... check or shove?

You're getting a sick price to shove...
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Old 08-31-2007, 06:28 AM
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Default Re: MP + FD on Flop, miss on the turn... check or shove?

It's hard for him to call on the turn with Tx, JJ-KK. I did push specifically for that reason, I just don't know if it was correct but I think a shove was fine.
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Old 08-31-2007, 07:57 AM
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Default Re: MP + FD on Flop, miss on the turn... check or shove?

if you check turn you're not ever getting paid off when you hit a flush on the river.
looks like he wants to showdown cheap, with JJ-KK likely being the top of his range. shoving is good
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