more nightly hundred grand hands

luckychewy · #1 02-11-2007, 01:50 AM

villain is 'daffy', seems to be playing well and raising a decent ammount. blinds are 100/200 with a very small antee, 10 if i remember correctly. folds to him in the co and he raises to 600, i call otb with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and ~7.7k behind. flop is 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], he bets 1k into ~1600 pot, i make it 3150, he shoves, i call.

villain is a random shortstack, i'm top 5 in chips at this point in the tournament with over 30k. he opens to 1800 in the cutoff at the 3/6 level and i shove him in for ~3.8k more otb with A9o.

villain is a pretty loose and bad player. the hand right before this he raised, got 3-bet and folded. he min-open raises in early position at the 500/1k level and i call in the bb with KTo and ~14k behind. flop is AQ7r and i check. he bets 2k and i shove for approximately 12k more.

i just get moved to a new table and fold a few hands, then i'm utg at the 750/1.5k level and open shove 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] for almost exactly 10 big blinds.

any comments appreciated.

Bob Loblaw · #2 02-11-2007, 02:09 AM

i think i just call the flop in hand 1; i dont see why we'd be raising unless we're trying to get overcards to bluff at us, and if that was the case then we should probably minraise. kind of bluffing here?

hand 2 he raised 1.8 of his 5.6? has he just been blinding down? if so i think a fold is fine. i guess if its a complete random id put him in.

hand 3 14k to win 6k? i dont like it; c/f or even fold pf;

Eagles · #3 02-11-2007, 02:35 AM

Hand 1: I play the exact same

Hand 2: Standard I prob play the same

Hand 3: This is a spew this flop hit a lot of his range and you only have gutter just c/f. Also pf is fine

Hand 4: This is awful like really terrible. My shoving range here would JJ+ AK+ and AQ and TT are both close. With 10bbs the only position I'd shove 57s from is the sb or the button and I would need a read that the people I'm shoving into are tight.

Pudge714 · #4 02-11-2007, 02:39 AM

Hand 1: I might fold preflop, but standard as played
Hand 2: Standard
Hand 3: Spew
Hand 4: Spew
Note for hand 3-4 spew is an understatement.

Bob Loblaw · #5 02-11-2007, 02:39 AM

i just saw hand 4 now; agreed thats bad.

Bob Loblaw · #6 02-11-2007, 02:42 AM

someone explain why you want to raise the flop in hand 1? his range before our raise is huge and we're definitely ahead; if we raise (and to 3k) that is taking away any hand we're ahead of (ok we can flip vs overcards and hearts).

I think if we raise, it should be a shove, or maybe a minraise. 3k is a weird size.

i think i'd say call > shove > minraise > 3k > fold.

Pudge714 · #7 02-11-2007, 02:43 AM

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someone explain why you want to raise the flop in hand 1? his range before our raise is huge and we're definitely ahead; if we raise (and to 3k) that is taking away any hand we're ahead of (ok we can flip vs overcards and hearts).

I think if we raise, it should be a shove, or maybe a minraise. 3k is a weird size.

i think i'd say call->shove->minraise->3k.

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Ya I'd probably shove. So many bad turn cards your hand rates to be best now and there is a lot of dead.

NoahSD · #8 02-11-2007, 02:48 AM

1) spew
2) standard
3) spew
4) spew

Hand 4 is ridiculous. I'm not even shoving T9s there, which is much much much better than 97s.

Eagles · #9 02-11-2007, 02:53 AM

BTW Hand 1 is def not a spew IMO.

Given your read villain is probably opening widish and cbetting most flops and your in position I think calling pf here is def +ev.

edit: Although given stack sizes and stuff I prob just shove when he cbets.

Pudge714 · #10 02-11-2007, 02:54 AM

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1) spew
2) standard
3) spew
4) spew

Hand 4 is ridiculous. I'm not even shoving T9s there, which is much much much better than 97s.

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And 79s is much better than 75s.

Lucky,
Many cash game players play way too loose in tournaments.
1. It is full ring which means you should play nittier
2. You are shallower so you have less implied odds.
3. You have a finite bankroll ie you can't reload.
All of these things mean you should play really nitty preflop and not try to get FPSY you can play well in online MTTs by playing pretty robotic.

Pushbotting when short is something you just need to kind of get a hang of just read the MTT forum and even the STTF just to get ideas about pushing ranges calling ranges etc. It really isn't that hard, but a lot of cash pros go into MTT's with a mindset of outplaying everyone it isn't necessary.