am i ever allowed to fold AAxx preflop?

[cb4mvp]

Even when I want to? Please?

Lol, seriously, he knows what I have, and 4 betting me and pushing over my 5 bet when we're semi deep makes it beyond obvious what he has. You don't get much worse than my AAxx here (although a rainbow would be pretty [censored], i guess), so do I have to get it all in here? I don't have alot of PLO experience, but I can't imagine he's ever bluffing and I have 0 FE, blah blah blah. Ever fold weak aces preflop?



PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($56.10)
BB ($75.80)
UTG ($7.75)
MP ($13.20)
CO ($34.10)
Hero ($44.60)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $0.95</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3.45</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $11.8</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG folds, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $36.85</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $56.1</font>, Hero calls $7.75 (All-In).

Flop: ($90.65) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Turn: ($90.65) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($90.65) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $90.65

[Full-Metall]

perfect

[chucky]

You can only fold aces preflop if you dont have suits and your side cards are horrible such as aa95.

[cb4mvp]

*sigh*

Goddamn it, lol

I guess that my side cards are too connected to fold too, right? I apologize if I am coming across as results oriented, I just want to make sure I have a thorough grasp on this.

[RoundTower]

there might be some spots where you can fold AAxx preflop but not here, your AA are to good and you are too shallow.

[cb4mvp]

That's cool. Thank you guys very much.

[FireStorm]

You're suited and have some connected stuff to go with it, so no, you're not folding here. In a case where you have nothing suited and have like AA96 or AA84, maybe AAT5, you can consider folding when deep stacked and better opportunities are forthcoming.

In the example above it doesn't really seem to apply as a question. When he makes it $11.80, you had an opportunity to simply call and proceed. Once you 4 bet, you obv can't fold since almost your entire stack is in the pot. I can't imagine open folding to the $11.80 4 bet, so I'm not sure where the tough decision as to fold or not is. Is this more of a general question?

[cb4mvp]

Yes, sorry, this is more of a general question. As played, I'm going under the assumption that I have AAxx with some connectedness and potential, I cannot fold. Basically, I want to know if that assumption is correct, and if there are times to fold AAxx, when it is appropriate to do so. This HH is just an example of a spot where this came up. At no point in this hand did I consider folding, or just calling and proceeding, as I think almost every flop for this particular hand is bad, and against this guy we'd be getting it in on the flop anyway. So yeah, I intended to just stick it in preflop here, and I just wanted to make sure that with this hand, that's always the correct play to make.