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10-10-2007, 01:06 PM
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25/50 tough spot with TPTK : felt it or fold it?
Hero is UTG with A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Stack sizes: Hero: 5K Villain: 11K SB: 2.8K Hero raises to 175 from UTG, Villain calls from UTG+1, SB calls, rest fold. Flop (pot: $575) : A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] SB leads out for $450, hero raises to $1,400 (planning to get it all in vs. SB), but Villain behind shoves for 11K. SB Folds. Hero? (has $3,425 behind, pot is $7,250) **READ: important >> Villain is quite nitty, but otherwise a pretty solid winner who has been running well vs. hero past few days. I don't see him doing this with AQ or worse...then again, I'm getting better than 2:1... 
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#2
10-10-2007, 01:12 PM
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Re: 25/50 tough spot with TPTK : felt it or fold it?
This is tough when you put in $1600 and only have $3400 behind, but based on your description of the villian, this is a fold. I suppose AQ is possible, but this is a set most of the time.
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10-10-2007, 01:44 PM
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Re: 25/50 tough spot with TPTK : felt it or fold it?
How many players are in this game? I think its a call if the game was 8 or 9 handed, marginal 7 handed, and a fold with 6 or fewer players. With greater than 7 players at the table I think its extremely unlikely that a nitty UTG+1 has a set of 2's or 6's or a flush draw that doesn't contain the Ah, and thus you're against a range of [AA, AK] with AK making up 6/7ths of his range. In this case you have equity = ~3/7 which is easily sufficient to call. With exactly 7 players at the table I could go either way on including the smaller sets in his range, and with 6 or fewer I think its very likely he does call with 66 and 22 preflop. I would not expect a villain described as nitty to shove naked flush draws in any of these cases, so when you believe he can have the smaller sets its a clear fold. Under no circumstances am I concerned that villain might have 2 pair.
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#5
10-10-2007, 01:57 PM
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Re: 25/50 tough spot with TPTK : felt it or fold it?
It was full 10-person table.
Is 2 pr really impossible? Even nitty players (i think this guy was 17/11 preflop) can occasionally call with A6s or A2s. And clearly villain's push would be the correct way to play 2pr in that situation...
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#8
10-10-2007, 02:47 PM
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Re: 25/50 tough spot with TPTK : felt it or fold it?
[ QUOTE ]
How many players are in this game? I think its a call if the game was 8 or 9 handed, marginal 7 handed, and a fold with 6 or fewer players. With greater than 7 players at the table I think its extremely unlikely that a nitty UTG+1 has a set of 2's or 6's or a flush draw that doesn't contain the Ah, and thus you're against a range of [AA, AK] with AK making up 6/7ths of his range. In this case you have equity = ~3/7 which is easily sufficient to call. With exactly 7 players at the table I could go either way on including the smaller sets in his range, and with 6 or fewer I think its very likely he does call with 66 and 22 preflop. I would not expect a villain described as nitty to shove naked flush draws in any of these cases, so when you believe he can have the smaller sets its a clear fold. Under no circumstances am I concerned that villain might have 2 pair. [/ QUOTE ] wha? Why would any decent player fold 66 or 22 preflop, even if he is nitty?
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#10
10-10-2007, 03:43 PM
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Re: 25/50 tough spot with TPTK : felt it or fold it?
ike's post is confusing me. is he saying that villian is more likely to set mine in a 6max game than full ring? I thought full ring was where set mining takes place.
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