Notes Thread

[Brian O'Nolan]

In order of importance for me:
1) Players I can get 3 good streets of value from with 1 pair. WTSD% etc can give you a feel for this but there's nothing like seeing someone c/c 3 streets w TPNK.
2) River betsizing/other tendencies. Like "leads fake blocking bet w/ top 2 & 3b AI", "2/3 pots river w/ whiffed draw"... more than any other street, players with similar PT stats will play differently on the river.
3) Cbet sizing changing w hand strength, double barrel frequency/sizing... it's good to note stuff like this for various tagfish types, but mostly making plays or calling down light based on this stuff is not where the money comes from in uNL.

Depending on how many tables you play, just noting anything that deviates from your "standard" HUD-based read is important.

[mvdgaag]

I like to make notes on betting patterns... For example some never vbet small but do bbet small. Some never checkraisebluff. Some never raise on a FD. Some are capable of semibluffing on the turn. Some make huge bluffs, but small vbets or vice versa. Etc, etc..

All these things I like to make notes of, preferably explaining the situation.

When I noted something and think I'm quite sure its a good read I like to put a + or ++ after it. When suspect someone of something but am not sure I put a +- or -, etc. I hardly take notes very serious without at least a + or two. They are just there to be reinforced so I can use them later.

[Antinome]

I mark squeezers, starting with squeezer? and work my way up to 'can't resist a squeeze opportunity'.

I mark slowplayer? and work my way up to 'plays backwards poker'. These guys are the bane of my existence, since I tend to be a lagtard.

I have a whole system for minbets and minraises, these are great tells pre and postflop.

'donks x/y pot with draws', 'raises x/y pot with draws' are priceless.

more basically, I'll sometimes just make a note to avoid getting involved with some guys for w/e reason. Either they won't pay me off, they always have a better hand than me.

'Calling station' (CS) is a classic, but a little vague.

'Floats w/ second pair, folds to second barrel' is nice, but hard to verify. Sometimes all you can do is note 'Floats?'

Other vague but useful ones... 'calls a lot in SB,BB to LP raise' can keep you from wasting money stealing. Pretty much that equals, 'leave the table' if he's in my blinds. It isn't like I ever actually have a hand.

[bored]

I write down the entire hand using shorthand for every big pot I see.

Examples:

call pfr MP 33; b3b AI 983 2f flop

minr 98s UTG/call rr; lead flop 1/2psb Q94r; c/call turn 2;
c/call psb river A

I think this is better than just
"bet/3bet = set"
and
"takes midpair to showdown".

I also take notes on pots that should have been big, but weren't, like if I see someone check/call AA on all three streets.

If someone is doing something a lot, but I haven't seen a showdown, I will write something like

minr w/ ??
seems to 3 bet light w/ ??
donk minbet flop w/ ??

Once I think I've seen an action more than a few times I will write a general note in caps:

For example, if someone has been calling down suited crap a lot I might write
CHASES FDs; VALUE BET

or if someone calls down any pair or draw I'd write
DON'T BLUFF; VALUE BET LIGHT

But I only four table, so I have time to take good, detailed notes.

[Chxdgt]

This thread...

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...e=2#Post6331669

...was bookmarked in Pr0crast's NL Anthology...

http://www.pr0crast.com/2+2.NL.Anthology.v1.htm

...and contains a ton of good suggestions on taking notes.

[traz]

I basically write down anything I notice that I wouldn't have been able to gauge from their stats (will call down with tpgk), as well as betting trends (ie, minbet = fold to raise)

[Milky]

[ QUOTE ]
This thread...

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...e=2#Post6331669

...was bookmarked in Pr0crast's NL Anthology...

http://www.pr0crast.com/2+2.NL.Anthology.v1.htm

...and contains a ton of good suggestions on taking notes.

[/ QUOTE ]


This is gold, don't know how I missed it. Thanks