ATs OOP

[SnglMaltScotch]

First off, I don't 3bet ATs OOP against an UTG raise. Villian is pretty laggy but still, OTB raise is fine, OOP this is closer to a fold than a 3 bet. If you are going to 3bet, $4 at least.

I check this turn and hope for a free card. Villians bet sizing will depend on whether this is a call or not.

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[monkover]

preflop is complete spew unless villain is really bad and you are awesome at play oop which you obv are not. these kind of hands are very difficult to play especially if you flop a draw oop. this is why i am not comfortable with playing those hands and you should just fold as well.
3 betting is even worse than calling and folding is way the best option here.
overbetting the pot on the flop is bad too b/c you don´t increase you fe most of the time and you give yourself bad oods to draw.

[artard]

mediocre aces are not good hands to be 3 betting light with, especially OOP

[Lego05]

Pre-flop play is terrible. Default = Fold. and if you are going to 3bet it it has to be bigger. Like $3.5


Overbetting the pot on the flop is terrible. Bet like 3.5-4.


Turn's a rough spot IMO as stacks make everything awkward. Just shove the turn I guess. Hopefully you have some FE and hopefully your A is an out.

[Monster207]

You're make some serious mistakes here, you have to fold preflop and the flop is real bad. This is just spew, dont do it.

[Bantam222]

so many of you guys focus on preflop so much because that is the easiest part..you could pretty much play by a chart and play "perfectly" preflop...SO much of this game is post flop. I always see people saying, wtf why am i losing im playing 15/20 should i play even tighter?? its because you suck post flop,
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You're make some serious mistakes here, you have to fold preflop and the flop is real bad. This is just spew, dont do it.

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if we 3bet preflop we have to cbet this flop...we actually have a pretty good hand right now.

[Monster207]

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so many of you guys focus on preflop so much because that is the easiest part..you could pretty much play by a chart and play "perfectly" preflop...SO much of this game is post flop. I always see people saying, wtf why am i losing im playing 15/20 should i play even tighter?? its because you suck post flop,
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You're make some serious mistakes here, you have to fold preflop and the flop is real bad. This is just spew, dont do it.

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if we 3bet preflop we have to cbet this flop...we actually have a pretty good hand right now.



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Ok I misread the board, thought it was two diamonds, not two hearts. That obviously increases our equity a lot and makes the NORMAL c-bet fine, however, overbetting the pot I think is pretty bad because this is obviously a semi-bluff and if Villain happenes to 3bet us on the flop we lost more than we needed too.

Second... I understand most of this game is postflop... however wouldn't you still want to play perfectly preflop?
This IS the micros, most of us don't play that well with marginal hands anyway, add on being oop and we're in some deep trouble. Maybe thats why we strive so hard to play good hands in position? Maybe thats why we should be folding a marginal hand OOP against an aggressive villain? I'm not saying it isn't profitable to 3bet him here but it might be better if OP 3bet at least in position. This is a fold preflop according to my "perfect hand chart"

[mandular]

I agree my 3 bet should have been more. What hands would you 3 bet this LAG opponent?