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Old 02-27-2007, 10:36 PM
Beavis68 Beavis68 is offline
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Default Rolled up 444 S8b 1/2

I am cutting off the river for now, please comment. I was new to the table.

7 Card Stud High-Low ($1/$2), Ante $0.20, Bring-In $0.25 (converter)

3rd Street - (1.60 SB)

Hero: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___completes
Seat 2: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 3: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___brings-in___folds
Seat 4: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Seat 5: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 6: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 7: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Seat 8: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds

4th Street - (4.85 SB)

Hero: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 4: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Seat 7: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks___calls

5th Street - (3.93 BB)

Hero: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___raises___raises
Seat 4: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets___raises___calls
Seat 7: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds

6th Street - (11.93 BB)

Hero: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___ ????
Seat 4: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets
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Old 02-27-2007, 11:15 PM
Alchemist Alchemist is offline
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Default Re: Rolled up 444 S8b 1/2

I have a hard time thinking that continuing to jam is wrong. Both Aces are dead and a 7 is dead. You're only behind if he has JJ or 77 and I don't think he'd C/C 4th with trip Jacks after you caught another spade which are live.
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Old 02-27-2007, 11:16 PM
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Default Re: Rolled up 444 S8b 1/2

"raise it baby one more time"
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Old 02-27-2007, 11:17 PM
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Default Re: Rolled up 444 S8b 1/2

Well, he can't have a low, or trip aces. Only JJ or 77 in the hole beat you, and you've seen one each of those. I imagine he might be putting you on a 25 in the hole for a straight/low draw and doesn't want you to get a free card. I guess I would probably cap this on 6th street if he wants to; this is just $1/$2... Its scary he bet into your spade, but his outs are so dead that I think you have to think that he just puts you on overplaying a low draw or something.

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Old 02-28-2007, 12:33 AM
Andy B Andy B is offline
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Default Re: Rolled up 444 S8b 1/2

I would lean towards checking fourth, mimicking a busted low, but betting is fine.

Either this guy has a full house or brain damage. This is $1/2, so I think raising one more time would be appropriate.
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Old 02-28-2007, 01:49 AM
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Default Re: Rolled up 444 S8b 1/2

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I would lean towards checking fourth, mimicking a busted low, but betting is fine.

Either this guy has a full house or brain damage. This is $1/2, so I think raising one more time would be appropriate.

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Andy,
since they are likely on lows, or if on highs, are playing anyway, wouldn't betting out on 4th be better, since you can still represent a busted low (hey, we all missed, but I'm trying to pick it up now anyway).

I'd think you wouldn't find the low draws mucking here given the board.

Do we really want to be giving a free card to busted lows here?
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Old 02-28-2007, 01:59 AM
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Do we really want to be giving a free card to busted lows here?

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Eh, perhaps not. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 02-28-2007, 05:49 AM
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Default Re: Rolled up 444 S8b 1/2

I do not understand the "This is (just) $1/2" reasoning. Can raising really be more correct the lower the limit is? Another question is whether the typical player at higher limits would be able to recognize that he's playing against rolled up fours.
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Old 02-28-2007, 11:24 AM
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Feel free to jam away, he has 2 pair at best.
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Old 02-28-2007, 11:43 AM
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Feel free to jam away, he has 2 pair at best.

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You're way ahead bro.
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