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Old 09-26-2006, 06:54 PM
HumanACtor HumanACtor is offline
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Default I like my flop...call or raise? (50 6max)

I like this flop. I put villain on a ten here, and he is a donk fool so he will likely call or raise any raise by me. Do you call and reevaluate the turn, or raise right here?

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MP ($47.70)
Hero ($49.25)
SB ($9.20)
BB ($73.60)
UTG ($122.05)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, SB calls $1.75, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($6) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $4.5</font>, Hero??
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Old 09-26-2006, 06:57 PM
xwillience xwillience is offline
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Default Re: I like my flop...call or raise? (50 6max)

raise it up. Im not afraid to get it all in on this flop either. 6 OC outs plus 9 to the flush.
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Old 09-26-2006, 07:42 PM
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Default Re: I like my flop...call or raise? (50 6max)

If he's really a donk fool and you have no FE, just call. He'll pay you off later in the hand if you hit.
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Old 09-26-2006, 08:16 PM
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Default Re: I like my flop...call or raise? (50 6max)

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If he's really a donk fool and you have no FE, just call. He'll pay you off later in the hand if you hit.

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Plus you'd like to keep SB in if you can and you have position. Getting it in now removes your positional advantage.
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Old 09-26-2006, 08:22 PM
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Default Re: I like my flop...call or raise? (50 6max)

no reason to get hasty if you think he will pay you off in the end anyways. see your card
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Old 09-26-2006, 08:25 PM
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Default Re: I like my flop...call or raise? (50 6max)

I call here. If it's HU or I have a read, I raise.
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Old 09-26-2006, 08:28 PM
xwillience xwillience is offline
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Default Re: I like my flop...call or raise? (50 6max)

okay, lets review really quick.

there are several concepts here we need to consider:

1) the free card.

2) repping a bigger hand.

3) how we would play bigger hands.

4) its possible that BB is weak.

5) our outs. we have 15 to BB single pair.

6) if we call, and villain bets the turn, we cannot call profitably unless he bets less than 1/2 the pot.

7) Pot control.

we raise, we get two cards and may buy the pot as well as build a big pot for when we hit.
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Old 09-26-2006, 09:01 PM
gimmetheloot gimmetheloot is offline
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Default Re: I like my flop...call or raise? (50 6max)

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okay, lets review really quick.

there are several concepts here we need to consider:

1) the free card.

2) repping a bigger hand.

3) how we would play bigger hands.

4) its possible that BB is weak.

5) our outs. we have 15 to BB single pair.

6) if we call, and villain bets the turn, we cannot call profitably unless he bets less than 1/2 the pot.

7) Pot control.

we raise, we get two cards and may buy the pot as well as build a big pot for when we hit.

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6 is wrong, but otherwise, good post.
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Old 09-26-2006, 09:05 PM
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Default Re: I like my flop...call or raise? (50 6max)

I usually raise here.

Raising gives you many ways to win the hand unimproved, which is especially good when BB is also on a draw.

Raising will usually get you a free card on the turn as well.
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Old 09-26-2006, 09:08 PM
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Default Re: I like my flop...call or raise? (50 6max)

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okay, lets review really quick.

there are several concepts here we need to consider:

1) the free card.

2) repping a bigger hand.

3) how we would play bigger hands.

4) its possible that BB is weak.

5) our outs. we have 15 to BB single pair.

6) if we call, and villain bets the turn, we cannot call profitably unless he bets less than 1/2 the pot.

7) Pot control.

we raise, we get two cards and may buy the pot as well as build a big pot for when we hit.

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6 is wrong, but otherwise, good post.

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depending on the size of villains bet im willing to agree with that.
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