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Old 09-01-2007, 12:35 AM
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Default Flop nuts in unraised pot, board pairs facing AI river bet - ADVICE?

Villain is 52/18/1.5 over 65 hands.

I found this river decision really tough considering it was an unraised pot. I think I have to call this river, but when I got min-raised on the turn I really started wondering if this guy just filled up.

I really felt my flop call was fine considering the CO is also a huge calling station and I wanted to try and get a little more action (given I just flopped nut straight on a dry board). I do however think it may have been smart to shove the turn? Thoughts?

Do you guys call this big river bet or lay down your flopped nuts, confident you are beat?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $36.60
Hero (BB): $35.70
UTG: $16.70
MP: $21.90
CO: $49.60
BTN: $24.75

Preflop: Hero is dealt (6 Players)
UTG calls $0.25, MP folds, CO calls $0.25, BTN calls $0.25, SB calls $0.15, Hero checks

Flop: ($1.25) (5 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $1.00</font>, Hero calls $1.00, UTG folds, CO calls $1.00, BTN folds

Turn: ($4.25) (3 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $2.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $6.00</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $12.00</font>, SB folds, Hero calls $6.00

River: ($30.25) (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $25.00</font>...
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Old 09-01-2007, 12:39 AM
TredWel TredWel is offline
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Default Re: Flop nuts in unraised pot, board pairs facing AI river bet - ADVIC

Pushing turn would be best, but the river is still a call. Villain plays any seven this way, and given his stats he's playing a lot of them.
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Old 09-01-2007, 12:40 AM
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Default Re: Flop nuts in unraised pot, board pairs facing AI river bet - ADVIC

That was pretty much my line of thinking. If anyone else has any input I'd love to hear.
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Old 09-01-2007, 12:40 AM
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Default Re: Flop nuts in unraised pot, board pairs facing AI river bet - ADVICE?

Raise flop, allin on turn. River looks like a call. That is more or less a blank. Coming over two raises with a flush draw with one card to come is a bit unlikely, certainly plausbile. Sure looks like he just has a seven though.
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Old 09-01-2007, 12:51 AM
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Default Re: Flop nuts in unraised pot, board pairs facing AI river bet - ADVIC

why would I raise this flop when I'm holding the nuts on such a dry board with another calling station behind me? I have 82% equity against 87 and 97% equity vs another random 7 or 8 hand.

I completely agree with raising the flop up with a strong hand when their is a threat, but I think there are exceptions to call and this is one.
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Old 09-01-2007, 01:06 AM
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Default Re: Flop nuts in unraised pot, board pairs facing AI river bet - ADVIC

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why would I raise this flop when I'm holding the nuts on such a dry board with another calling station behind me?

[/ QUOTE ]Because you have the nuts and there is a calling station in hand? If SB is station too this is autoraise. I don't think stations fold pairs on flop, turn sure. You get them off overcards and gutshots. Still, I want to build a pot now. You have no idea CO is calling. Turn is best card in deck for your hand IMO, raise raise reraise raise.
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Old 09-01-2007, 02:22 AM
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Default Re: Flop nuts in unraised pot, board pairs facing AI river bet - ADVIC

raise the flop take it from there
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Old 09-01-2007, 02:25 AM
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Default Re: Flop nuts in unraised pot, board pairs facing AI river bet - ADVIC

Raise flop. As played I'll still 3bet turn and get it all-in.
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