Thread B: read ONLY thread A or B

[alphatmw]

this is a test out of curiosity about analyzing hands that are posted in this forum. please read and reply to ONLY thread A or B. if you've read both already, don't reply to either (at least, don't reply with any analysis).





Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 ($42.25)
MP2 ($45.66)
CO ($104.72)
Button ($49.25)
SB ($23.83)
BB ($75.30)
UTG ($49.25)
UTG+1 ($13.25)

Preflop: SB posts a blind of $0.25.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls $2, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($6.25) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $4</font>, CO calls $4, BB folds.

Turn: ($14.25) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $10</font>, CO calls $10.

River: ($34.25) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $33.24</font>, UTG ??


what hand range does UTG have?
what hand range does CO have?
what hands should UTG call with?

[xwillience]

no reads at all???

UTG: AA/KK AK AQ AJ 44 maybe

CO: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]x[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] AK/AQ/A4/44 Maybe AA/KK/QQ/JJ/53 if hes really bad

UTG should Call with anything better than AJ

[alphatmw]

should of anticipated less people replying here. bump?

[bhudson]

Next time you do this post some reads.

UTG has an A, most likely A9s+, or 44/KK/AA
CO has a weaker Ace, set, 2pr w/A, or suited connector with busted FD.
UTG should call with anything he has up to this point.

[uminchu]

no reads or stats at all and almost full ring, then this really could be any two unless their solid no read players, the hypothetical is quite interesting but i do believe that this is just wayy too broad, unless your implying EVERYONE plays ten table mechanical poker, like a large majority of players here on the forum, if either player is lag, especially the CO then he could have a9s + any two spades, 44 or A4s, and a couple overpairs if he just can t fold KK or QQ UTG obviously more tight, but i make moves from uTG at tight tables

[alphatmw]

sorry for no reads but just give your answer assuming both unknowns.

[xwillience]

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should of anticipated less people replying here. bump?

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you have to give the thread more than 10 minutes before you start bumping...

[TredWel]

Given no reads, I put UTG on AQ/AJ, and CO on a busted FD, with the outside possibility of A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. I think there is a high possibility that this is a bluff, and UTG should call given his range above.

[RED FACE]

utg range ? maybe AQ I don't think others bet flop and turn and check river.

co range AA, KK, 44, busted draw.

utg should call with, totally read dependent other than obvious very strong hands which I assume he doesn't have given the check. I'd say if utg has AQ and is checking that river he should probably call the push on the river as it looks like a bluff. Most villains wont sp a set that long on a 2 tone flop w A and K out there imo.

more could be said but why?

[alphatmw]

to those who had Ax in the CO range... why would any Ax which isn't two pair pot the river??? that was never in my range for CO. we could chalk it up to terrible play but how likely is it? AT has a chance for a free showdown after UTG bets every street but the river, and decides to pot it?