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$25 NL- I like the river?
Here's a hand that I would like to get some thoughts on the river. Basically, I'm not saying whether or not I played any of the streets correctly, but I would prefer to hear mainly thoughts about what you do on the river in this situation. I guess what I was thinking was that he probably thought I was somewhat weak after checking the turn and river and that the pot sized bet was fishy. Also, I have a habit of not giving people credit for having a card if there are already two of them on the board (unless the action really says otherwise). Villain is 28/5/.5 over 75 hands.
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font> MP ($25) CO ($25.60) <font color="#C00000">Button ($46.20)</font> SB ($26.50) <font color="#C00000">Hero ($26.15)</font> UTG ($31.35) Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.5</font>, Button calls $1. Flop: ($2.85) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.8</font>, Button calls $1.80. Turn: ($6.45) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, Button checks. River: ($6.45) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $5</font>, Hero calls $5. I spent more time making this decision than I have probably spent in the last 1000 hands. That isn't saying a lot because years of playing limit online have turned me into a quick decision maker. I know it's not a huge hand, but it just seemed like an interesting spot. If the villain was more aggressive I think it's an easy call, but his low aggression factor (over a tiny sample size) made this difficult for me. |
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Re: $25 NL- I like the river?
I call this river, doubt he has Ax here because of the check behind on the turn
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Re: $25 NL- I like the river?
I'd cbet the flop for more, but I make all my cbets bigger than that.
I think the river is fine. It is very possible you induced a bluff by checking to him twice; it is also possible that he is being tricky with Ax. If he has an A, make a note of it and move on. |
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Re: $25 NL- I like the river?
What do you think he called the flop with? He doesnīt seem to be the guy that goes for thin value on the river with JJ. I find that people float me all the time with A high. It wouldnīt surprise me one bit if this guy didnīt bet with AJ on the turn. I probably need a bit more history with the guy before I make thin calls.
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Re: $25 NL- I like the river?
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What do you think he called the flop with? He doesnīt seem to be the guy that goes for thin value on the river with JJ. I find that people float me all the time with A high. It wouldnīt surprise me one bit if this guy didnīt bet with AJ on the turn. I probably need a bit more history with the guy before I make thin calls. [/ QUOTE ] Kx, a 5, 67, air. He limp calls, floats flop w/ Ax, checks behind when his gin card comes, and then only bets on the river? Hero's line looks really, really weak here, villain is bluffing a lot of the time here |
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Re: $25 NL- I like the river?
I c-bet a bit more on flop. River looks like a call.
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Re: $25 NL- I like the river?
If I float the flop here with Ahi, I am not betting the turn either. We are either crushing him or way behind (obviously) and calling a bet on the river or vbetting river is a better way of extracting money if you float and you happen to hit a fairly strong hand (but not enough to stand a reraise).
So, having said this, if I were villain, an A is a solid part of my range, but obviously not the entire range. |
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Re: $25 NL- I like the river?
I would fold the river. The villains aggression factor is too low for you to call this thin.
I can't picture a villain of this type betting about 5/6 of the pot on the river without an ace. It looks like villain floated you with Ax. |
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Re: $25 NL- I like the river?
Despite his low AF remember that I have only about 75 hands on him. Also, I felt like the river bet was just too large, it screamed bluff to me. At this level I think I can take the bet for what it appears to be... a bluff. As far as my cbet on the flop I normally do bet slightly more, but I think it's kind of unimportant in looking back at this hand. But to get back to my original point, I just don't see him betting so much on the river if he has an ace. He knows I'm weak and if he has an ace he definitely wants a call. I don't think it is wise to assume his bet size was some sort of trick at this level.
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Re: $25 NL- I like the river?
Yeah I call it, you played it weakly enough to make it profitable I think.
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