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Old 03-22-2006, 09:44 AM
Miraculix Miraculix is offline
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Default Totally out of line in these two hands?

Hi.
I´m kind of new to the SnGs so I´ve been playing a few $1 MTT at Stars just trying to get a grip of the game. I try to just play the best hands in early levels and then loose up a bit later if the players are not to aggressive. I´ve played 7 of these so far placing myself 10-16-40-13-8-10-16.
Could you please check these 2 hands out and tell me if I was totally lost here or if my play was OK and I lost to bad luck.

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PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t400 with t25 antes (8 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t11644)
UTG+1 (t9484)
MP1 (t17756)
MP2 (t5800)
CO (t12439)
Button (t5049)
SB (t858)
Hero (t4470)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls t400, UTG+1 calls t400, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, MP2 calls t400, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, Hero checks

Flop: (t2000) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets t800</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t2000</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to t7600</font>, Hero calls t2045 (All-in)

Turn: (t14445) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)


River: (t14445) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)

UTG has been passive preflop and vey aggressive postflop in many hands. This time he held QQ!

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PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t200 (7 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t5140)
Hero (t3915)
MP1 (t2657)
CO (t3390)
Button (t2605)
SB (t12040)
BB (t6679)

Preflop: Hero is in UTG+1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls t200, <font color="red">Hero raises to t800</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, SB calls t700, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG folds</font>

Flop: (t2000) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets t3115 (All-in)</font>, SB calls t3115

Turn: (t8230) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)


River: (t8230) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)

SB has been defending his blind almost every time so I thought: what the f**k. But he is the chipleader....and he was holding AJ.

Thanks for any reply
// M
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Old 03-22-2006, 10:01 AM
nath nath is offline
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Default Re: Totally out of line in these two hands?

Bad luck. Your bet amounts could be better (you don't checkraise the flop enough in hand 1-- and actually you might consider leading out-- and you don't need to overbet all in in hand 2) but these are just tough beats.
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Old 03-22-2006, 10:24 AM
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Default Re: Totally out of line in these two hands?

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and you don't need to overbet all in in hand 2) but these are just tough beats.

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I thought about betting the pot (2000) but that would only leave me a little more than 1000 for a turn bet which would have given him better odds to call, right?

// M
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Old 03-22-2006, 10:31 AM
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Default Re: Totally out of line in these two hands?

These aren't bad beats, but they are big hand runs into bigger hand.

I would probably push prefloip the first hand, although I don't mind seeing a flop with the big suited connector. Of course, in this case, you would have also busted out that way.
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Old 03-22-2006, 10:34 AM
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Default Re: Totally out of line in these two hands?

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and you don't need to overbet all in in hand 2) but these are just tough beats.

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I thought about betting the pot (2000) but that would only leave me a little more than 1000 for a turn bet which would have given him better odds to call, right?

// M

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I woulda bet half the pot on the flop and pushed any turn if he flat-called, and called if he repushed the flop. Not a chance of folding on that flop with your hand in a $1 MTT even if he reraises my flop bet.
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Old 03-22-2006, 05:21 PM
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Default Re: Totally out of line in these two hands?

OK. Thanks for your replies.
// M
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Old 03-22-2006, 05:46 PM
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Default Re: Totally out of line in these two hands?

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These aren't bad beats, but they are big hand runs into bigger hand.

I would probably push prefloip the first hand, although I don't mind seeing a flop with the big suited connector. Of course, in this case, you would have also busted out that way.

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I agree with pushing PF on hand 1. You have 11BBs, which doesn't necessarily merit a push yet, but with 3 limpers creating a nice enough pot, you can easily push this and drag a nice sized pot. Just so you, UTG (QQ) in hand 1 is an absolute idiot for how he played QQ PF.
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