4 players check to 99.

[kerowo]

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kerowo as you see above i advocated a flop check as well

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Yea, I agree this is a good place for a free card, but since we didn't get it I don't see spending a SB for a 1.5 to 2 outer.

[Brain]

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can someone stove this? i'm interested to see if my gut is right. our 99 against four almost random ranges? say a 100% range, a top 80, a top 60, and a top 40%. does that approximate this level fairly well?

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Only 3 opponents so I threw out the 100%.

PF:
----------equity----win------tie------pots won-pots tied
Hand 0: 21.267% 20.99% 00.87% 342931 14146.75 {60%}
Hand 1: 24.715% 24.48% 00.92% 400003 14964.08 {40%}
Hand 2: 19.090% 18.85% 00.77% 307890 12637.58 {80%}
Hand 3: 34.928% 35.58% 00.31% 581329 5138.08 {9c 9h}

Flop:
----------equity----win------tie------pots won-pots tied
Hand 0: 25.270% 24.26% 01.01% 389853 16252.50 {60%}
Hand 1: 29.990% 28.91% 01.08% 464654 17307.67 {40%}
Hand 2: 22.316% 21.43% 00.88% 344433 14200.00 {80%}
Hand 3: 22.424% 22.14% 00.28% 355834 4541.83 {9c 9h}

[jeanbaptiste36]

I don't understand. You can use pokerstove in this situation to determine your equity if everyone checks to you?

[terencetsao]

Flop:
----------equity----win------tie------pots won-pots tied
Hand 0: 25.270% 24.26% 01.01% 389853 16252.50 {60%}
Hand 1: 29.990% 28.91% 01.08% 464654 17307.67 {40%}
Hand 2: 22.316% 21.43% 00.88% 344433 14200.00 {80%}
Hand 3: 22.424% 22.14% 00.28% 355834 4541.83 {9c 9h}

its kind of funny.. our equity is still good.. but as best we can pray for is only 2 outs

[hustalasta]

*grunch*

I don't think we are ahead here very often. Also, any card that "improves" our hand (8, 9, 10 or K) puts 3 to a straight on the board. I check this flop.

[SLAP_tuary]

With our pos and now getting 13:1, can we call to see the turn? I imagine we get 4 BB's on the turn a lot if a 9 comes.. + River.

[terencetsao]

naw.. just fold it..u also have to consider reverse implie odds too

[Xhad]

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I don't understand. You can use pokerstove in this situation to determine your equity if everyone checks to you?

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You can IF you can estimate their hand ranges well but there's also implied odds to consider which work against you in this case. Also some of your equity in this situation comes from hands like 45s that have no reason to call the flop.