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Old 11-28-2007, 01:15 PM
fooz fooz is offline
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Default DBing TT overs and calling shove

Villain is 21/17/3.1 and a 2+2er.

Am I totally out of line here? Turn bet too big? Should I really just go for pot control?
Maybe I've been getting too frisky lately trying db-out the JJ/QQ hands.

Remember this is Party, so you're not allowed to raise your flopped sets on the turn.

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Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $400
UTG+1: $985.64
CO: $400
Button: $805.78
SB: $396
fooz: $525

Pre-flop: (6 players) fooz is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $16</font>, 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">fooz raises to $50</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($102, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">fooz bets $65</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($232, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">fooz bets $215</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $604</font>, <font color="#cc0000">fooz calls all-in $195</font>.
Uncalled bets: $194 returned to UTG+1.

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($1052, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $1052)


Results:
Final pot: $1052
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Old 11-28-2007, 01:26 PM
mendacity mendacity is offline
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Default Re: DBing TT overs and calling shove

Bet/folding the turn isn't an option in a re-raised pot and he could do it with pair+fd although there aren't many of those perhaps T8dd but that's not a significant part of his range.

I would check/fold the turn.
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Old 11-28-2007, 05:24 PM
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Default Re: DBing TT overs and calling shove

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Old 11-28-2007, 05:29 PM
ArturiusX ArturiusX is offline
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Default Re: DBing TT overs and calling shove

Check calling the turn is fine. In this instance, I think he has a set near 99%.
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Old 11-28-2007, 05:31 PM
ArturiusX ArturiusX is offline
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Default Re: DBing TT overs and calling shove

Its a tricky spot if he's good. He can set you up in previous hands to make you his bitch in these spots by playing semi randomly. Problem is, anything we do commits. Maybe even a turn c/r, I don't know.
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Old 11-28-2007, 08:21 PM
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Default Re: DBing TT overs and calling shove

This is why I hate 3betting TT in this spot.
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Old 11-28-2007, 09:52 PM
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Default Re: DBing TT overs and calling shove

Check/fold turn. I don't expect him to bet much though either.
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Old 11-28-2007, 10:05 PM
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Default Re: DBing TT overs and calling shove

I think turn is a fold vs a good player after betting and getting shoved on- don't see what you're ahead of? I'd prob c/rai on turn tbh. I hate your bet/call because I just cannot think of a hand u beat...you certainly have a chance to fold ur hand when he shoves.
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Old 11-28-2007, 10:17 PM
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Default Re: DBing TT overs and calling shove

depending on the player and ur history I would either c/f or c/r the turn. C/ring if I thought the guy was a habitual floater and he thinks im FOS often
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Old 11-28-2007, 10:18 PM
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Default Re: DBing TT overs and calling shove

also fwiw, facing an ep raise from a tag, in the bb closing the action I would CC preflop often

also the turn betsizing is no good imo, I like much smaller maybe like 140 with my whole range
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