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11-26-2007, 01:48 AM
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Re: My Dad\'s [censored] Union
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My Dad will go down with the union, even if losing his job means he doesn't have a shot in hell of getting the diabetes treatment he needs. [/ QUOTE ] He's not going down with the union, he's going down with a few morons who are risking their jobs (and the jobs of their fellow union members) because their new boss is a pain in the ass. A union is made up of people. It's not a thing that deserves loyalty in and of itself. If the people in the union all start acting like idiots, it may be time to rethink one's loyalties. 
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11-26-2007, 03:53 AM
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Re: My Dad\'s [censored] Union
If the company is playing hardball with the reduced second contract it sounds like they are trying to get rid of the union anyway. I doubt that anything better could have been negotiated. They probably don't want to overpay for these jobs, and have figured out a way around the problem.
Hopefully thats not the case and you Dad will be back at work shortly.
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11-26-2007, 10:39 AM
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Re: My Dad\'s [censored] Union
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If the company is playing hardball with the reduced second contract it sounds like they are trying to get rid of the union anyway. I doubt that anything better could have been negotiated. They probably don't want to overpay for these jobs, and have figured out a way around the problem. Hopefully thats not the case and you Dad will be back at work shortly. [/ QUOTE ] Playing hardball? The company offered what they felt was a generous offer and got slapped in the face by the union in return.
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11-26-2007, 10:47 AM
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Re: My Dad\'s [censored] Union
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[ QUOTE ] My Dad will go down with the union, even if losing his job means he doesn't have a shot in hell of getting the diabetes treatment he needs. [/ QUOTE ] He's not going down with the union, he's going down with a few morons who are risking their jobs (and the jobs of their fellow union members) because their new boss is a pain in the ass. A union is made up of people. It's not a thing that deserves loyalty in and of itself. If the people in the union all start acting like idiots, it may be time to rethink one's loyalties. [/ QUOTE ] I think people are being a little naive to suggest that the father can just walk out on the Teamsters and scab during a strike. It's not the mob days any more, but he could expect union fines, social ostracism, or even physical intimidation/violence.
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11-26-2007, 11:30 AM
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Re: My Dad\'s [censored] Union
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] My Dad will go down with the union, even if losing his job means he doesn't have a shot in hell of getting the diabetes treatment he needs. [/ QUOTE ] He's not going down with the union, he's going down with a few morons who are risking their jobs (and the jobs of their fellow union members) because their new boss is a pain in the ass. A union is made up of people. It's not a thing that deserves loyalty in and of itself. If the people in the union all start acting like idiots, it may be time to rethink one's loyalties. [/ QUOTE ] I think people are being a little naive to suggest that the father can just walk out on the Teamsters and scab during a strike. It's not the mob days any more, but he could expect union fines, social ostracism, or even physical intimidation/violence. [/ QUOTE ] as well he should. You don't scab for the boss in situations like this. You solve it in-house. If I don't like the president of the US, I don't join Al Qaeda. I deal with it in-house.
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11-26-2007, 12:08 PM
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Re: My Dad\'s [censored] Union
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] My Dad will go down with the union, even if losing his job means he doesn't have a shot in hell of getting the diabetes treatment he needs. [/ QUOTE ] He's not going down with the union, he's going down with a few morons who are risking their jobs (and the jobs of their fellow union members) because their new boss is a pain in the ass. A union is made up of people. It's not a thing that deserves loyalty in and of itself. If the people in the union all start acting like idiots, it may be time to rethink one's loyalties. [/ QUOTE ] I think people are being a little naive to suggest that the father can just walk out on the Teamsters and scab during a strike. It's not the mob days any more, but he could expect union fines, social ostracism, or even physical intimidation/violence. [/ QUOTE ] as well he should. You don't scab for the boss in situations like this. You solve it in-house. If I don't like the president of the US, I don't join Al Qaeda. I deal with it in-house. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah screw that ass for trying to do his job for what he thinks is a good deal without suffering intimidation. How selfish is he not wanting to lose his medical coverage over the petty squabbles of a group of people he doesn't know.
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11-26-2007, 12:25 PM
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Re: My Dad\'s [censored] Union
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] My Dad will go down with the union, even if losing his job means he doesn't have a shot in hell of getting the diabetes treatment he needs. [/ QUOTE ] He's not going down with the union, he's going down with a few morons who are risking their jobs (and the jobs of their fellow union members) because their new boss is a pain in the ass. A union is made up of people. It's not a thing that deserves loyalty in and of itself. If the people in the union all start acting like idiots, it may be time to rethink one's loyalties. [/ QUOTE ] I think people are being a little naive to suggest that the father can just walk out on the Teamsters and scab during a strike. It's not the mob days any more, but he could expect union fines, social ostracism, or even physical intimidation/violence. [/ QUOTE ] as well he should. You don't scab for the boss in situations like this. You solve it in-house. If I don't like the president of the US, I don't join Al Qaeda. I deal with it in-house. [/ QUOTE ] You are advocating violence and threats against someone for wanting to do a job? Awesome.
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11-26-2007, 12:39 PM
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Re: My Dad\'s [censored] Union
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] My Dad will go down with the union, even if losing his job means he doesn't have a shot in hell of getting the diabetes treatment he needs. [/ QUOTE ] He's not going down with the union, he's going down with a few morons who are risking their jobs (and the jobs of their fellow union members) because their new boss is a pain in the ass. A union is made up of people. It's not a thing that deserves loyalty in and of itself. If the people in the union all start acting like idiots, it may be time to rethink one's loyalties. [/ QUOTE ] I think people are being a little naive to suggest that the father can just walk out on the Teamsters and scab during a strike. It's not the mob days any more, but he could expect union fines, social ostracism, or even physical intimidation/violence. [/ QUOTE ] as well he should. You don't scab for the boss in situations like this. You solve it in-house. If I don't like the president of the US, I don't join Al Qaeda. I deal with it in-house. [/ QUOTE ] His first alliances are with his family. I have a feeling that he is the breadwinner in the house(leigihigh can correct me if wrong) and his first duty is to take care of them. If that means crossing a picket line so they can eat then so be it.
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