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Old 10-11-2007, 09:51 PM
peacock peacock is offline
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i made a bet on the flop in a 2/5 heads up the other guy moves all in and turns over pocket kings and sits back.and ask wat r u doin he said do u want to play or not? the dealer said it was fine to do that. anyone see or hear of this before?
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Old 10-11-2007, 09:57 PM
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Happens all the time. If it was a tournament then his hand would be dead but in a live game this, as far as to my still limited knowledge, is legal.

Players will use it to get information or if they are friends or like the person they are up against will use it so the other person doesnt lose as much money.
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Old 10-11-2007, 10:31 PM
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In this situation it is a little unusual I think in that the bettor flipped his hand over. I could see someone who is considering calling doing it to get a read, but why would someone give away information to you before you make the call.

My guess would be he figured he was ahead but was afraid of you sucking out, so he wanted you to fold. He should be encouraged to do this all the time.
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Old 10-11-2007, 11:03 PM
Jauron Jauron is offline
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This is amazing and I wished everyone would do this to me. It makes your decision a heck of a lot easier.

I've actually had someone do this to me, and they had me crushed so I let it go.
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Old 10-11-2007, 11:33 PM
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Its almost always allowed, but turning over your hands when your opponent is debating a call is sometimes met with a warning (and subsequent penalties like having it declared dead if you continue doing it).

Seems like a pretty nice situation to be in though.
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Old 10-12-2007, 01:01 AM
pig4bill pig4bill is offline
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I've often wanted to do it when I have aces, because they are usually the kiss of death. I'd be content with winning the small pre-flop pot.
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Old 10-12-2007, 05:56 AM
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I've posted a story similar to bav's. Mine takes place literally weeks after the Moneymaker sensation swept the land, and every newb and his brother packed the poker rooms.

$1-2 NL. UTG makes it $80 to go (!). Several folds, a LP player calls. All fold to the BB, who moves all-in for about $375.

UTG snap-calls, and turns up his KK. BB quickly tables his AA.

"Hold on, fellas," says the dealer, "We got another player in this pot."

LP asks the dealer what the rules are in such a situation. The dealer tells him, "It's your turn to act. You can call all your chips, or fold."

LP ponders for a moment, calls (!!!!!!), and turns up KK (??????).

(Miraculously, AA somehow managed to hang on and win this one.)

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If it was a tournament then his hand would be dead...

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I wonder if I'll live long enough to see the day that people stop saying that.
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Old 10-12-2007, 06:27 AM
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If it was a tournament then his hand would be dead...

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I wonder if I'll live long enough to see the day that people stop saying that.

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No, because there are places in the world where this is true. The folks posting it are probably completely correct about what will happen in their favorite poker room. It takes a while reading 2+2 to come to fully realize how very different the rules are in various venues.

Only place in Vegas I know this used to be the rule was Mirage. I haven't played a tourney there since Caesars opened, I don't think. But used to be, anyway, that each table would get a warning. First time a hand was exposed prematurely Richard would march up, huff and puff and give a little lecture and announce "next time this happens at this table the hand is dead". So all the regulars knew you got one freebie, so if the freebie hadn't been used at your particular table and you felt a crying need to show your cards, you could do it once per tournament. No clue if it still works this way at Mirage, but it was sometimes downright comical to watch players almost race to see who could use the freebie first.
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Old 10-12-2007, 03:24 PM
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i made a bet on the flop in a 2/5 heads up the other guy moves all in and turns over pocket kings and sits back.and ask wat r u doin he said do u want to play or not? the dealer said it was fine to do that. anyone see or hear of this before?

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You should be thanking players like this every day. How often do you get such great, free information?
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