Case in Point...

[chezlaw]

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You're right that the roots of women being oppressed by men is probably not religious. Religion is just what scares people into keeping this custom alive and make it still seem justifiable in the year 2007.

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Maybe. I can't convince myself that the first bit is true. Many seem perfectly happy to keep this custom alive.

I think nasty people behave this way because it kinda makes sense, our main objection stems from our niceness. Its obscene far more than ridiculous.

chez

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I must really be missing something in these last couple of threads. Are you saying that women LIKE being oppressed? Granted, many of them know of no other life. But I can't believe that if they had a choice, they wouldn't want to be treated as someone else's property.



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No of course not, I'm not suggesting the oppressed like it. Consider slavery, slavery isn't ridiculous its obscene. The societies slaves lives within don't require religon to justify or support their existence. The reason to oppose slavery is that its obscene.

Sure people who benefit from slavery will use religous arguments if it helps them but religon is not the cause of slavery.

chez