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11-11-2007, 12:23 PM
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Hand reading and trend importance.
Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter BTN: $27.70 SB: $24.25 BB: $24.15 UTG: $44.35 UTG+1: $4.80 MP1: $17.25 MP2: $13.95 Hero (CO): $25.50 Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO) UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $0.25, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1</font>, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls $0.75 Flop: ($2.35) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players) UTG+1 checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $1.75</font>, <font color="red">UTG+1 raises to $3.80 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $2.05 Turn: ($9.95) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In) River: ($9.95) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In) Results: $9.95 Pot ($0.45 Rake) UTG+1 showed and LOST (-$4.80 NET) Hero showed J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and LOST (-$4.80 NET) I'm posting this because it's a hand that at first glance looks like a very odd play, but it's based on villains tendencies and is an example of why noting these tendencies is important in improving play. When UTG+1 limps, I know a couple of things. 1) He never has a pair here, because he's been pushing any pair from any position, then rebuying for $5 when he busts out. 2) He'll pay off his stack light, since he can't fold even over cards. Honestly, I throw away JTo, but because the players were giving me respect, they are likely to fold and I'll be isolated with position against villain. Which is what happened. Great flop for me, I have Top pair, and an inside draw. Villain checks, which in this particular case means he didn't hit the flop. Since he bet when he had a part of the flop. So, I'm now I'm ahead, so his check raise, (which I was hopping for) isn't at all scary, in fact for him it indicates desperation at having two over cards that missed. It's an easy call, despite just having Top pair 3rd kicker. It's not that interesting of a hand in isolation, but it provides an example of how noting the play of someone else, and using how others at the table view you (they saw me as very tight and those to act after me would almost always get out of my way without a premium hand) and position can allow you the opportunity to pick up some decent pots. Remember, that what the villain has and how it's played is as important as your cards. 
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#4
11-11-2007, 01:01 PM
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Re: Hand reading and trend importance.
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It's an easy call, because I have top pair good kicker + gutshot facing an all-in raise which barely doubles my initial bet and so I have to call even if he showed me AA beforehand [/ QUOTE ]
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#5
11-11-2007, 01:03 PM
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Re: Hand reading and trend importance.
Good points. One problem I have with your play is the overall hand range of villian. Do you have that many hands that you know that he never limps with a big pair (especially early, hoping for some play in late position that thinks he always pushes pp's so now he can't have one to raise him for isolation... [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] )
Next, Based on the possibilty of above and him being short I'm not sure you have the right odds to try to isolate him with such a week holding? You'll miss the flop about 2/3rds of the time. If you C-bet with air in this spot you're pretty much committing yourself to calling if he pushes (Pot would be about 7.5 and you need to put in about 2, or 3.75:1 and your probably not that far behind.)
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#6
11-12-2007, 03:14 PM
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Re: Hand reading and trend importance.
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Good points. One problem I have with your play is the overall hand range of villian. Do you have that many hands that you know that he never limps with a big pair (especially early, hoping for some play in late position that thinks he always pushes pp's so now he can't have one to raise him for isolation... [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] ) [/ QUOTE ] No, I don't have that many hands on him. But since he's busted out at $5.00 3 times so far pushing pocket pairs, and double up twice as well, he's certainly on a trend to push any pocket pair, so I believe my read is good here. [ QUOTE ] Next, Based on the possibilty of above and him being short I'm not sure you have the right odds to try to isolate him with such a week holding? You'll miss the flop about 2/3rds of the time. If you C-bet with air in this spot you're pretty much committing yourself to calling if he pushes (Pot would be about 7.5 and you need to put in about 2, or 3.75:1 and your probably not that far behind.) [/ QUOTE ] He's short because he recently busted out again pushing pockets, and I'm not c-betting with air. His aggression was pretty readable, limp way too often, bet when he hits, check raise when he misses. He bets and I fold, he checks and I hit I want money in because I know he has missed. His check raise was expected. As to the odds of being able to isolate him. As most who play tight find out, sometimes when you get a hand, everyone folds simply because they know you have a hand. You can't always count on everyone being an idiot. So, we have to add hands to our range in order to get a call or raise when we have something real. Here, I was presented the opportunity to play a very mariginal hand, in a way that could be made profitable based on exploiting the villains tendecies. Because I hadn't raise or played a hand in a few orbits, only huge hands are likely to raise me, (and they liked to limp, not raise). I have a good chance of taking down the pot pre-flop, and if not being isolated in position against an easy to read player. Plus it allows for more action on my standard hands at the table.
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