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Old 10-28-2007, 04:55 PM
MikeBandy MikeBandy is offline
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What is a good place for me to start on 2+2?
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...&PHPSESSID=
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Old 10-28-2007, 06:05 PM
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I hate to say this and it may be impossible for you right now, but move up. I don't see how anyone could get a bankroll going on $0.01/$0.02 NLHE because people will call with 2 4 off and personally I think that is why you have such swings as $1-->$2-->$0.

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Exactly. Your biggist mistake is playing .01/.02 and expecting to test theories, build your bankroll, learn the game, etc. It's just too cheap for players to play anything. Here is how I started (I'm a semi-pro now, working my way up):

1. Thousands of hours in freeroll tournaments. This gave me a chance to learn the game. I got to see many, many hands and try out different strategies. At the same time, I was able to start building a bankroll from nothing. Play in the first 15 minutes or so of freerolls is unrealistic. After that, it becomes more real.

2. Use my bankroll to play low buy-in sit-n-gos. Play is much more realistic and you get to apply your skills to win money.

3. Expand to higher buy-in sit-n-gos and micro-stake cash games.

4. Move up as my bankroll increases, move back down if I'm getting beat. Repeat until I become more stable at higher levels.
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Old 10-28-2007, 07:34 PM
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What is a good place for me to start on 2+2?

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http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...&PHPSESSID=

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Thanks for the link, here is a list that "Cry Me A River" recently put together:
The Collective Wisdom of 2 + 2

This should keep you busy for a couple of month [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 10-28-2007, 08:44 PM
saal13 saal13 is offline
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Bank Management
For micro and small stakes full ring no limt I think the 20 buy-in rule is fine.

A great Site to use
Poker Stars. Great support, great software. And you don't want to deposit at other sites until your bankroll allows you to take full advantage of bonus offers.

Adding money to sites
I'm not based in the US so I can use Neteller.

Rakebacking
RakeTheRake
ThisIsTheNuts

And for bonuses Bonuswhores is good.


[b]Tutoring
Pokerzion
Stoxpoker
Cardrunners
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Old 10-28-2007, 10:23 PM
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Best level post/gimmick account on 2+2 IMO.
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Old 10-29-2007, 02:39 PM
Sir Folds A Lot Sir Folds A Lot is offline
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This sounds so much like the high school football player who wants to go pro. Seriously, how many people want to be pro poker players? Now, how many of those actually follow through as our OP plans on doing and not make it? I am not trying to discourage the OP, but I think it should be said that he, the OP, should take it easy on the eagerness. Becoming a pro takes some time, and the succes to failure rate suggest this is a risky at best venture.
You probably have a better chance of reaching the success you want in life by attaining a marketable skill through education whether it be vocational or higher learning. Keep playing poker on the side, and one or the other will get you where you wanna be.
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Old 10-29-2007, 07:04 PM
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Not only do I want to be a good player I want to learn to become one. Sure it would be awesome if I could pop a pill, ask a lamp or pray hard enough and tomorrow POOF I'm just like Doyle Brunson, Phil Gordon or Matt Damon from Rounders. (I’d prefer to be Ed Norton, but I doubt having a great sleight of hand would be useful while online…..ummmm never mind I take that back.) I know that the chances of that happening are even worse than my chances of me legally sleeping with Drew Barrymore. But I’m all about learning it. Studying it, practicing it, reading about and so forth. I’m not someone who wants to take music lessons and become a rock star, I just want to make money. There is a guy downtown who stands out all day making money playing a flute and I assure you that guy has never taken a flute lesson in his life. I’m just trying to learn enough to be good enough, not a star. Which is why I love the links everyone has given me! Thank you so much! You guys all rock more than a star trek camera!

I’m still looking for info or real experiences with rake backing and which one of the poker sites listened on the rake baking sites is the best to use. Plus PokerStars isn’t part of their lists. I get the concept of rake backing I just wonder if there is a major catch to it all. . I’m also stuck on what is the best way for an American to add money into the casinos?

Thanks again everyone.
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Old 10-29-2007, 07:13 PM
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Here is a list that "Cry Me A River" recently put together:
The Collective Wisdom of 2 + 2

This should keep you busy for a couple of month

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Thanks a lot. I didn't notice it when it came out. It'll keep me busy for a long time. Can you imagine the work involved in compiling it?
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Old 10-29-2007, 07:53 PM
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Not only do I want to be a good player I want to learn to become one. Sure it would be awesome if I could pop a pill, ask a lamp or pray hard enough and tomorrow POOF I'm just like Doyle Brunson, Phil Gordon or Matt Damon from Rounders. (I’d prefer to be Ed Norton, but I doubt having a great sleight of hand would be useful while online…..ummmm never mind I take that back.) I know that the chances of that happening are even worse than my chances of me legally sleeping with Drew Barrymore. But I’m all about learning it. Studying it, practicing it, reading about and so forth. I’m not someone who wants to take music lessons and become a rock star, I just want to make money. There is a guy downtown who stands out all day making money playing a flute and I assure you that guy has never taken a flute lesson in his life. I’m just trying to learn enough to be good enough, not a star. Which is why I love the links everyone has given me! Thank you so much! You guys all rock more than a star trek camera!

I’m still looking for info or real experiences with rake backing and which one of the poker sites listened on the rake baking sites is the best to use. Plus PokerStars isn’t part of their lists. I get the concept of rake backing I just wonder if there is a major catch to it all. . I’m also stuck on what is the best way for an American to add money into the casinos?

Thanks again everyone.

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I am an American that plays on PokerStars, and there are two ways to deposit that I know of--the cheap way and the fast way.

The cheap way is to use E-passporte. Though there will be a fee, you can deposit as little as $10 at a time. The down side is that every time you move money from your bank account to E-passporte, there is a two-week verification process before that money is actually in your EP account and available to deposit on the site.

The fast way is Western Union. You have access within a day of wiring the money, but the minimum deposit is $100.
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Old 10-29-2007, 10:21 PM
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Here is a list that "Cry Me A River" recently put together:
The Collective Wisdom of 2 + 2

This should keep you busy for a couple of month

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Thanks a lot. I didn't notice it when it came out. It'll keep me busy for a long time. Can you imagine the work involved in compiling it?

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You are very welcome!

Can you imagine how many hours it took to write all of them? Somebody (2+2?) should publish the "creme de la creme" with the contents voted by the 2+2 forum members...
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