Cheating at AP, updated cliff notes

[suzzer99]

Dan, I have a ton of respect for you for changing your position and for the work you're doing with AP support. It seems like you've put a ton of thought and effort into this, and I know $12k isn't *that* much to you to keep you working this hard all by itself.

Keep us posted!

[sixfour]

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Dugg: 962

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Did p5's do the podcast with you already?

[foldmasta]

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And if Scott Tom or whatever isn't running the company anymore; who is? What stake does Scott Tom still have in Absolute Poker (or this AJ Green dude)

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Some of you sportsbetting bigtimers PLEASE bring this to the sportsbetting forums, after all NINE.com one of the few surviving startups of the last years is involved...They can go down the same hole that absolute and ub are going to go, same bastard (s) involved.

[Sponger.]

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Looks like Mark Seif is playing in the 1k tourney on ABS in 2 hours. I guess hes not trippin about any superusers.

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lol I can't wait to see the chat in this tourney

[egj]

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Sweet. The Levitt article and the Digg page are on the second page when you Google "Absolute Poker".

http://www.google.com/search?q=absolute+...art=10&sa=N

It would be sweet to get these on page 1.

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The best way to get these pages higher in Google's results is to create links to them from other sites. The links should contain the text "Absolute Poker". People may want to do this from their blogs, etc.

[traxamillion]

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Looks like Mark Seif is playing in the 1k tourney on ABS in 2 hours. I guess hes not trippin about any superusers.

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lol I can't wait to see the chat in this tourney

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Do i need any certain account balance to chat?

[steve1127]

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Good point Patty. How do you "settle up" with someone who was eliminated from a tournament by 363 & friends? Or who was eliminated later after 363 took a chink of their stack?

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Easy. Anybody who entered any of those tournaments and failed to cash gets their money back, and everyone who cashed gets moved up a spot (assuming superuser won). It's not perfect, but the best possible solution, I think.

[Paul Levy]

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if they offer to pay back 700k everyone should be happy


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Not in any possible way. The untolerable event that has taken place is not the security breach with the superuser stealing, but the fact that AP shattered their integrity by lying about it, and it doesn't matter in the slightest whether "they will do it again" or not.
AP's knowingly denying that the events took place, and going as far as denying even the technical possibility of them happening, is akin to a financial institution going out of their way to cover up an insider trading scheme.

Anyone who cares the tiniest bit about the credibility of internet poker must do all they can to ensure AP faces the fullest possible consequences, regardless of whatever compensation the affected players might get.

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hire the .xls whistleblower back or give him a settlement (I personally am not doing a [censored] thing to stop leaning on them until that happens)

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If we're convinced this was a whistle blower and not just incompetence can we take up a collection? Adanthar - can you contact him?

[admiralfluff]

The objections I have to your reasoning is that:
1. Most of the money brought in by fish doesn't make it to my stakes. It is lost at lower stakes to rake and other players that will never move up.

2. Most of the money taken from cheaters IS done at my stakes (or higher).