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Old 08-16-2007, 03:31 AM
Eternal Eternal is offline
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Default top pair good kick oop against a lag

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $409.95
Hero (BB): $200.00
UTG: $647.50
MP: $574.60
CO: $281.25
BTN: $200.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $7.00</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $7.00, SB folds, Hero calls $5.00

Flop: ($22) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">MP bets $14.00</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $60.00</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $202.00</font>, Hero ??

Please critique all streets, I know I played this terrible but your thoughts are the only way I'll get better. Should I have even called OOP with K10s here?
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Old 08-16-2007, 03:37 AM
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Default Re: top pair good kick oop against a lag

hmm that's a pretty sick spot (when he bets $14 to you!). I would call and reevaluate turn, because if you checkraise and he calls or 3bets (as he did), you have a crappy decision ahead of you. Your play also depends on how he perceives you.

Maybe flat call and donk safe-ish turn?
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Old 08-16-2007, 03:59 AM
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Default Re: top pair good kick oop against a lag

I would just fold or squeeze pf. KTs is not the type of hand I want to be playing OOP against a LAG.
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Old 08-16-2007, 04:01 AM
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Default Re: top pair good kick oop against a lag

Well, you can't fold now. Who knows on your line, it depends on my exact reads on Villain e.g. PFR.
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Old 08-16-2007, 04:03 AM
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Default Re: top pair good kick oop against a lag

After getting to the flop though I'd base my decision on how often he double and triple barrels. If his postflop aggression is through the roof I'll call him down on a lot of boards or if he slows down on the turn I'll call and donk into him. As played I'd call the shove but wouldn't be happy about it.
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Old 08-16-2007, 04:05 AM
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Default Re: top pair good kick oop against a lag

PF i think is ok.....i would tend to c/c the flop and go from there.
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Old 08-16-2007, 06:13 AM
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I personnally fold pf, if I call pf, I ch/c flop reevaluate on turn, prolly donking non heart turn for 2/3 pot,folding to raise, checking river if called.
And now I've just realised why I fold pf, this is just too hard to play.
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Old 08-16-2007, 07:24 PM
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Default Re: top pair good kick oop against a lag

Yeah it really is hard to play, but I think it only seems more that way because we look at two suited broadways and think "damn that's a great hand, this sucks"...

Just treat it on flops like these like you would treat the top pairs you flop with mid-high suited connectors or suited aces or whatever.
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Old 08-16-2007, 08:24 PM
Fiksdal Fiksdal is offline
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Default Re: top pair good kick oop against a lag

you doing that preflop is exactly what the lag wants to happen: he gets to play against you in position and you have a marginal hand. def fold preflop. you are letting the dude take control and position at the same time. if you are gonna play this OOP, at least take control and re-raise.
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Old 08-16-2007, 08:25 PM
BalugaWhale BalugaWhale is offline
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Default Re: top pair good kick oop against a lag

you ever ask yourself why you're raising the flop?
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