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Old 05-25-2007, 02:50 PM
Justin A Justin A is offline
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Default Re: Money. Bored. Evolution.

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What created the creator?


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How did evolution evolve?

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Why would evolution evolve?

It's besides the point anyways. I was merely pointing out that the argument of, "well the universe had to get here somehow, it can't have just sprang up from nothing," is faulty. Any argument you make about our existence like that necessarily applies to a creator also.
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Old 05-25-2007, 02:56 PM
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Default Re: Money. Bored. Evolution.

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It's besides the point anyways.


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It is the point.
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Old 05-25-2007, 05:03 PM
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Default Re: Money. Bored. Evolution.

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What created the creator?


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How did evolution evolve?

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This question doesnt even make sense.
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Old 05-25-2007, 05:11 PM
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Default Re: Money. Bored. Evolution.

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It's besides the point anyways.


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It is the point.

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Stop being so cryptic. I'm not even sure what your "how did evolution evolve" comment was supposed to mean. If you're using it to argue against my point to Inso, then just make an argument saying so instead of just making a statement that doesn't make any sense.
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Old 05-25-2007, 05:13 PM
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Default Re: Money. Bored. Evolution.

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What created the creator?


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How did evolution evolve?

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This question doesnt even make sense.

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It makes sense from NR's perspective. Of course the answer is "It didn't," but that doesn't stop people with little understanding of evolution from posing it.
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Old 05-25-2007, 05:14 PM
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Default Re: Money. Bored. Evolution.

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Ok, but no one said anything about the universe. Do you believe it to be the best explanation for the creation of Earth, or the creation of life, or the creation of the diversity of life?

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The universe and ALL that is contained within it.

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God is the best explanation for the horrible screenplay I'm working on?
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Old 05-25-2007, 05:16 PM
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the problem isnt the number of years or days, but the fact that the universe is finite directly contradicts evolution.

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....WHAT?!?!
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Old 05-25-2007, 05:27 PM
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How did evolution evolve?
This question doesnt even make sense.


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What created the creator?


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And this one does?
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Old 05-25-2007, 05:29 PM
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I'm not even sure what your "how did evolution evolve"


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If it's ok to ask where the absolute, eternal, uncreated Creator of the universe came from it's ok to ask where evolution came from.

Is that uncryptic enough?
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Old 05-25-2007, 05:34 PM
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Default Re: Money. Bored. Evolution.

Inso...
I don't literally mean the entire site...I would look at the posts of whoever ends up doing this, and choose a large amount of info (but still a subset) that I felt most addressed their general objections.

All 'rules' would be laid out ahead of time, along with the 'course requirements'.

As I mentioned above, I will deposit the money with another poster (assuming someone will agree to that) or individual...I'm sure we can find someone we mutually agree upon.

As to 'level of mastery'...in general, you should be able to understand the evidence presented. Serioiusly, it's just like college. You certainly don't have to believe any of it.

I don't intend this to be easy. I'm not being tricky, but I'm not just tossing out money to someone who wants to claim they read the site. (If you look at the feedback section, eg, there's a lot of "Hey, I read this whole site, and how come there's horses? Huh? Huh? where are the monkey men? Huh? Yeah...thought so..."

If I reach agreement with someone, It will be fair, impartial, clear ahead of time, and secured by someone we can trust. But not mindlessly easy.

So far I see SOME interest from you and KUJustin...I'm out of touch for a few days, so I'll let this thread run and see what develops, and also think about the logistics of 'testing'.

Edit - Actually I see there are some others with possible interest too...didn't mean to neglect you guys.
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