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Old 08-10-2007, 02:42 AM
QuattroFour4 QuattroFour4 is offline
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Default Re: Advanced S&G strategy? Or pure idiocy....

Good point; although, even if you steal blinds once because of this bubble effect you're maintaining, you should be indifferent to making this play or not making this play.
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Old 08-10-2007, 02:45 AM
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Default Re: Advanced S&G strategy? Or pure idiocy....

The small stack still has $38 in equity. You gain $12 knocking him out. You gain $7 stealing the blinds once when the 3400 and 3300 guy are in the blinds.
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Old 08-10-2007, 03:03 AM
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Default Re: Advanced S&G strategy? Or pure idiocy....

this is a known sng strategy to answer the post Title.

its debatable what the highest EV move is. but folding is at the worst neutral. if im in a good mood i make this fold sometimes...
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Old 08-10-2007, 03:08 AM
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Default Re: Advanced S&G strategy? Or pure idiocy....

It's not terrible obv, because you may still get some steal opportunities, but there are problems with it.

For one, he's really short even after you give him your 200. So, often times he won't be around that long.

Secondly, most people still can't fold 88+, AT+ when your obviously shoving wide.

Finally, he is to your immediate left. So, you will have to shove through him every time you steal. So, you're steals won't be as affective. Also, if the shorty calls you, the other stacks can profitable call ur any two card shoves very wide.

I'd like this a lot more if he was to your right.
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Old 08-10-2007, 03:13 AM
Shillx Shillx is offline
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Default Re: Advanced S&G strategy? Or pure idiocy....

Lol this guy is living in fantasy land. Run bad much there buddy? You won't be folding when the dude with t3400 instacalls next hand with Q7o.
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Old 08-10-2007, 03:29 AM
DevinLake DevinLake is offline
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Default Re: Advanced S&G strategy? Or pure idiocy....

I just went and read most of the linked discussion.

Whether this play is good or bad, 95% of the people in that thread have no clue as to explain why.
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Old 08-10-2007, 04:09 AM
Dr_Wonderful Dr_Wonderful is offline
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Default Re: Advanced S&G strategy? Or pure idiocy....

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Someone in another poker forum suggested that this topic be posted on 2+2, so I figured that I would do the honors. Your opinions are appreciated.

http://www.wptfan.com/article.php?st...70809081004553

Hello all, this is my first post in quite a while. What do you think of my play in this $50 sig-n-go?

4 players left, blinds are 200/400
Gee_Man - 6,000
player 2 - 3,300
player 3 - 3,400
player 4 - 800

I'm in the small blind, player 2 folds, player 3 folds. I have AA and fold my small blind to player 4.

My fold allowed player 4 to stay in. I then pounded the blinds of player 2 and 3 (they were tight wanting to make the money). By the time player 4 finally went out I had almost all the chips.

[/ QUOTE ]


This is a nice hand in theory, but assuming the other two middle stacks are folding ATC is probably a poor one. People LOVE AT+ and HATE being bullied, even at the cost of EV.
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Old 08-10-2007, 05:00 AM
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Default Re: Advanced S&G strategy? Or pure idiocy....

I like this a lot better if BB has between 400 and 201 chips.

Whenever I make plays like this(although I never fold this strong a hand) the shortstack calls my next push with like A3 anyway
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Old 08-10-2007, 05:11 AM
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Default Re: Advanced S&G strategy? Or pure idiocy....

looool, that discussion is hilarious.
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Old 08-10-2007, 06:08 AM
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Default Re: Advanced S&G strategy? Or pure idiocy....

the idea is ok but the situation is poor
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