My Hall of Fame Ballot

[wisehandpoker]

2008 Hall of Fame Ballot

Tim Raines
Goose Gossage
Mark McGwire
Bert Blylevin

[88jayhawks]

Jack Morris
Don Mattingly
Harold Baines
Goose Gossage

[sylar]

educate me. is Lee Smith deserving? i never saw him pitch

[Smell The Glove]

Looking at Tim Raines' career stats, goddamn he was good. But he has no chance of actually getting in, right?

Blyleven
Raines
Trammell
Gossage
Mark [censored] McGwire

[Smell The Glove]

Lee Smith is a guy who pitched pretty well for a very long time and accumulated a lot of saves. He didn't have many seasons where he was particularly dominating, like Eckersley and Rivera. He wasn't instrumental in the development of the closer role, like Sutter and Gossage. I think that Smith will be an interesting case for the HOF because he's the first player of his type to be eligible for the HOF but there's a handful of borderline players (Hoffman, Reardon, Wagner, Franco) that will be coming up in the next decade that are similar. Rivera is the only closer that I think is a shoe-in.

[Triumph36]

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Lee Smith is a guy who pitched pretty well for a very long time and accumulated a lot of saves. He didn't have many seasons where he was particularly dominating, like Eckersley and Rivera. He wasn't instrumental in the development of the closer role, like Sutter and Gossage. I think that Smith will be an interesting case for the HOF because he's the first player of his type to be eligible for the HOF but there's a handful of borderline players (Hoffman, Reardon, Wagner, Franco) that will be coming up in the next decade that are similar. Rivera is the only closer that I think is a shoe-in.

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I don't think any of them will get in - Hoffman perhaps. Public opinion of Lee Smith has turned, he's basically a forgotten man. Plus, the media thinks closers are super-important but don't think they belong in the HOF (lol consistency)

sylar - don't you remember Lee Smith as a Yankee, or are you that young?

[rwperu34]

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Looking at Tim Raines' career stats, goddamn he was good. But he has no chance of actually getting in, right?


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I was under the impression that Tim Raines was a lock to make it.

[Jack of Arcades]

If Tim Raines doesn't make it, burn the [censored] place down.

[smbruin22]

hey, if it was the hockey hall of fame, they'd all be getting in...

a few questions and comments:

was jack morris not great for long enough? or never great?

is alan tramell really better than some of those big lists people made?

alot of love for bert blyleven? not sure i agree, but haven't seen his stats so could be way off.

i think some of the discussion should be on greatness as it relates to marketing the game: give mcguire and mattingly huge marks for that. a few others too.

so hard but i'd go mcguire for sure and then maybe mattingly or jack morris... heart is with andre dawson, but too many injury problems i think (that damn olympic stadium)

[sixfour]

Blyleven
Mattingly
Dawson
John