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Old 11-24-2007, 01:29 PM
westhoff westhoff is offline
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Default Stars $2.75 FT hand, board paired + 4flush

Villian has been very aggressive, raising at least half the hands since we got 4-handed. I'm sure he perceives me as weak/conservative as he has been running me over due to me not ever playing back at him with the 94o I've been getting every hand. Thoughts on all streets much appreciated. Payouts were somethig like 3rd=$375 2nd=$550 1st=$1100

Poker Stars, $2.50 + $0.25 NL Hold'em Tournament, 15,000/30,000 Blinds, 3 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN): 619,292
SB: 526,948
BB: 2,243,760

Pre-Flop: (54,000) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
<font color="red">Hero raises to 90,000</font>, SB folds, BB calls 60,000

Flop: (204,000) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (204,000) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets 120,000</font>, Hero calls 120,000

River: (444,000) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets 420,000</font>, Hero ????
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Old 11-24-2007, 04:38 PM
StepBangin StepBangin is offline
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Default Re: Stars $2.75 FT hand, board paired + 4flush

I think I can fold here and try to get it in PF with my ~400,000 that I have left.

His turn bet could very easily be a semi-bluff that got there on the river, this could also be a KQ hand that he wanted to check/raise the flop with (its a $2.50 tourney, anything can happen) and now wants to look like a bluff on the turn.

There are too many hands here that I dont want to see if I call and lose.

However, I would really hate seeing 8x 8s here if I fold and he shows.
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Old 11-26-2007, 06:38 PM
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Default Re: Stars $2.75 FT hand, board paired + 4flush

Anybody else?
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Old 11-26-2007, 08:33 PM
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Default Re: Stars $2.75 FT hand, board paired + 4flush

What does his flop check mean? I would take it as strength if hes been running you over. It just screams that you are beat, I would definitely fold here. I can make up a range of hands when I get home from school if you want?

Here is what I came up with, you're a 4-1 dog is this is the correct range

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

39 games 0.016 secs 2,437 games/sec

Board: Qs 4s Ks Kc 2s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 20.513% 20.51% 00.00% 8 0.00 { 9c9s }
Hand 1: 79.487% 79.49% 00.00% 31 0.00 { KdKh, QcQd, QcQh, QdQh, JcJs, JdJs, JhJs, TcTs, TdTs, ThTs, 8c8s, 8d8s, 8h8s, 5c5d, 5c5h, 5d5h, AcKc, AdKd, AhKh, AsJs, As8s, As7s, KcQc, KdQd, KhQh, JsTs, AcKs, AdKs, AhKs, AsKc, AsKd, AsKh, AcQs, AdQs, AhQs, AsQc, AsQd, AsQh, AcJs, AdJs, AhJs, AsJc, AsJd, AsJh, KQo }

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Old 11-26-2007, 09:12 PM
gobucks27 gobucks27 is offline
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Default Re: Stars $2.75 FT hand, board paired + 4flush

I'm not putting another chip into this pot after the pf raise.. This board hits connects w/ so much of villain's range I don't see it as +ev to play this, especially given villain's aggressiveness
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Old 11-27-2007, 02:35 AM
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Default Re: Stars $2.75 FT hand, board paired + 4flush

I called and villian showed 9h8h [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 11-27-2007, 03:57 AM
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Default Re: Stars $2.75 FT hand, board paired + 4flush

I think i c/f the flop, turn, and river. Bet size on the river is kinda fishy, but if he has made lg bets with big hands before, he could just be getting greedy. You're only beating a bluff, so hero call or fold. I'd fold b/c your range for checking the flop + just calling the turn is the A or J of spades. It's not a good spot for him to bluff, b/c u never have anything but a spade here.
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