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Old 11-21-2007, 03:31 AM
GiantBuddha GiantBuddha is offline
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Default NL50: Middle set on monotone flop 160BB deep

3-bet preflop - yes
Raise more on flop - yes
Failing that:

Over a small sample (30 hands) MP2 is wacky/lagtarded and UTG+1 is tight/passive.

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Hero ($81.25)
SB ($48.70)
BB ($49.50)
UTG ($63.45)
UTG+1 ($80.90)
MP1 ($48.75)
MP2 ($37)
MP3 ($49.25)
CO ($52.70)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $2, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls $1.50.

Flop: ($6.75) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $14.5</font>, UTG+1 calls $14.50, MP2 calls $10.50.

Turn: ($50.25) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $20.5 (All-In)</font>, Hero...
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Old 11-21-2007, 03:36 AM
AllTheCheese AllTheCheese is offline
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Default Re: NL50: Middle set on monotone flop 160BB deep

Shove. You're committed anyway. UTG+1 might even fold a flush to a shove here.
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Old 11-21-2007, 03:36 AM
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Default Re: NL50: Middle set on monotone flop 160BB deep

shove I def am afraid of utg though so much that I've edited/changed my decision in this post 3 times. This really is a tough [censored] spot, if it was just you and MP you are ahead 95 percent of the time, but with UTG I am leaning towards you being behind more often than ahead of him but you do have outs with the board paired and he could have a smaller set/2pair/ace of clubs + the money in the pot/from MP that a shove makes it worth it.
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Old 11-21-2007, 05:52 AM
Varagh Varagh is offline
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Default Re: NL50: Middle set on monotone flop 160BB deep

raiser can have so many hands that would make sence playing here, jj, qcqx, kckx, acax, ackx, axkc...and all are drawing out except the jj and ackc...whatever ur committed anyway.
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Old 11-21-2007, 04:13 PM
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Default Re: NL50: Middle set on monotone flop 160BB deep

results?
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Old 11-21-2007, 04:55 PM
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Default Re: NL50: Middle set on monotone flop 160BB deep

What range of hands are we putting UTG + 1 on? What would he limp/call with preflop then check/call flop? I'm thinking NFD, made flush and maybe sets and 2 pair. You have outs against the flush and you are crushing the rest (except JJ)

This looks more like NFD that a slow played flush. I push.
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Old 11-21-2007, 11:26 PM
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Default Re: NL50: Middle set on monotone flop 160BB deep

I put UTG+1 on a range of AcKc, AcQc, KcQc, 8c9c, JJ, 22, AcKx, AcQx, JT, or a really weirdly played overpair. Not evenly weighted, though. Basically, I think there's very few flushes he's likely to have here, but he's very likely to have them. MP2 could have had anything that remotely connected to the board.
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Old 11-21-2007, 11:32 PM
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Default Re: NL50: Middle set on monotone flop 160BB deep

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What range of hands are we putting UTG + 1 on? What would he limp/call with preflop then check/call flop? I'm thinking NFD, made flush and maybe sets and 2 pair. You have outs against the flush and you are crushing the rest (except JJ)

This looks more like NFD that a slow played flush. I push.


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exactamundo. arr eeeen.
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