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Old 09-21-2007, 05:59 AM
LAG Heuer LAG Heuer is offline
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Hi,

There is something I don't understand. Why would a cheater be so stupid that the way he plays will bring suspicion in the others players minds ? Shouldn't he, on the contrary, use this advantage once in a while to make big laydowns or big call to make it efficient on the long term ??
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Old 09-21-2007, 06:09 AM
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U are assuming the cheat isn't greedy, and has a good understanding of poker strategy. It would be appear this person or person (s) was both greedy and a horrible player despite the fact he could see the cards.
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Old 09-21-2007, 07:01 AM
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U are assuming the cheat isn't greedy, and has a good understanding of poker strategy. It would be appear this person or person (s) was both greedy and a horrible player despite the fact he could see the cards.


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Maybe yes... still seems very strange to me. The guy must be really stupid. Even if he is greedy/very bad player he has to take into account the fact that he might get caught by the other players !!
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Old 09-21-2007, 07:15 AM
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I'm starting to doubt the long-term viability of this fight against AP's stance. It's very difficult to really hit them hard.

I've thought about asking BLUFF to put a notice on every page in thepokerdb where AP stats are being shown. The notice would provide a link to a page with a summary and links to the 2+2 threads. The problem is that it's hard to get BLUFF to cut off a consistent advertiser while also hurting the perception of online poker. It just doesn't offer them an immediate material benefit and provides a number of material detriments. And just because I might want to see it happen doesn't mean the majority owners of BLUFF would agree with me because it's their income stream that would be directly affected by a decision like this.

The question is who is both a) willing to take the hit and b) has the pull to actually get something done here. I'm not sure. The NYT w/ Levitt is a start.
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Old 09-21-2007, 07:43 AM
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I don't know what's the big deal about getting it in some magazine. There are far more people reading forums like this nowadays than some magazine. Why bother buying a magazine when you can all the info as soon as it happens on the internet. You also get better strategy analysis and can contribute to discussions, etc.... Also, it's not like this forum is some hidden trove of info for a select group of players these days, I would say the majority of online poker players now read sites such as these, probably every other day like myself, as can be seen in how much tighter the games have got in the last year. It's no longer one or two regs and the rest fish at the table, it's now one or two fish and the rest are regs(whether they are good regs is a diffent matter). So in effect, a certain amount of damage has already been done to Absolute.

Getting this out to the wider media is gonna do more harm than good really as far as I can see. It'll have a negative impact on fish sign up rates at all sites. I'd say you could be looking at a severe lack of fish if this story was publicised enough and I certainly don't want that, it's bad enough that the golden days have gone, we don't need to lose what we have left aswel.
The fact that nothing serious can really be done about this issue, without hurting pro poker players themselves, is very disappointing but that's just the nature of the situation when you are trying to hold to account an unregulated, unaccountable offshore complany.
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Old 09-21-2007, 07:50 AM
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if someone set up a website - boycottabsolutepoker.com, or something, that could have an impact. Maybe I'll do it myself.
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Old 09-21-2007, 09:24 AM
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I dont understand why reject/failed journos (or just any weasal journo in general, ie all of them) arnt jumping over a story like this

I mean what if some guy managed to cheat at a HS table in Vegas or w/e. Surely that is news worthy
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