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Old 10-18-2007, 07:13 PM
StrictlyStrategy StrictlyStrategy is offline
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Well PF isn't very clear but if it's a 5 way pot and two have checked to you, thus leaving two behind I'd bet. You're up against loose players who are terrible and will call with A2o here all day.
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Old 10-18-2007, 07:15 PM
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Default Re: Middle Pair

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Is betting wrong here? I think I bet here..

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I wouldn't go so far as to say it's wrong but I definitely think checking is preferable. Most of these loose passives will call a queen as opposed to raising it. Checking give us the information we need to make a better decision. If you bet all kinds of bad things can happen.

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Yeah but if you check all bad thing can happen too right?
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Old 10-18-2007, 07:28 PM
Hair_of_the_Dog Hair_of_the_Dog is offline
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Default Re: Middle Pair

I usually fold here. Someone usually (80% of the time) has a Q or better. So I'm drawing to max 5 outs, but I'm also up against a diamond draw.

I rarely find that I've folded the best hand when it comes to a show down. Might be that I'm folding to a bluff, but someone usually calls to the river.

It seems like I get middle pair often. I find that when I semibluff with it I seem to be spewing chips. This only works for specific players that will fold on the river when they miss there over draw. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 10-18-2007, 07:41 PM
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Is betting wrong here? I think I bet here..

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I wouldn't go so far as to say it's wrong but I definitely think checking is preferable. Most of these loose passives will call a queen as opposed to raising it. Checking give us the information we need to make a better decision. If you bet all kinds of bad things can happen.

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Yeah but if you check all bad thing can happen too right?

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What's the worst that could happen? It comes back bet and raised and you get away cheap? You get a free card? You get to almost close the action and peel one in a big multiway pot for one more bet? These are good things.
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