Bizarre river raise

[cgrohman]

So, Joker raises pre-flop, bets the flop, bets the turn, bets the river, 3 bets the river, and this dude choose to 4-bet and you think the 2nd nut flush on a paired board is worth a call?

[Howard Beale]

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So, Joker raises pre-flop, bets the flop, bets the turn, bets the river, 3 bets the river, and this dude choose to 4-bet and you think the 2nd nut flush on a paired board is worth a call?

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It's worth a call from a total drunken, doped-up, moron, idiotic imbecile. Let's remember something, ppl: We may consider that our opponents play worse overall than we do but that doesn't necessarily make them all horrible beyond belief all the time. OP had pounded this pot at every opportunity and then gets raised. Unless he knows the raisers tendencies pretty well I think just calling the river raise is in order.

[Adebisi]

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OP had pounded this pot at every opportunity and then gets raised. Unless he knows the raisers tendencies pretty well I think just calling the river raise is in order.


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He didn't "pound the pot". He never got the chance. He had the PF lead and kept betting, and they just called along. I'd agree with just calling if a few postflop raises went in somewhere, but here our hand is just too strong compared to his range.

[gaming_mouse]

I would 3b. So many more combos of worse flushes + other weird stuff.

[Adebisi]

3-bet. I think his most likely hands are 34 36 or A3 with the A of hearts.

[jskills]

Call?

[ShawnHoo]

Here's button's thought process with a set:

"ZOMG I flopped a set. I will be really tricky and wait to raise the turn."

"Crap, now there are three hearts. Stupid dealer kill me every time! I will just call here and try to fill up."

"Full house! Yay! I raise!"

[chesspain]

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A fairly loose-aggressive player opens in EP; I 3-bet in the hijack with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].


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Let's talk for a moment about PF. Since this is presumably an isolation move, do you believe that you are ahead of his range here? And if not, are you assuming that you will be able to use your position to get him to fold when the board misses you and either he has a mid-PP or A-high?

[private joker]

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Let's talk for a moment about PF. Since this is presumably an isolation move, do you believe that you are ahead of his range here?

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Hell yeah. In fact I often have him dominated.

[Yodaman]

I 3-bet/call, but I can see both sides of the argument. I think 3-bet here still has more weight simply because of the previous statements... Villain is erratic and we must treat him as such.

I mostly play live as well.