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Old 11-23-2007, 07:01 PM
blopp blopp is offline
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Default Re: HU 25/50 really weird spot deep

Im position I, really considering call flop, reraise turn line. Cause I think it bether represent nuts in position. And it get more value when he is out of line, look less blufsy.
Your range is obvs huge here raising button HU.

As played Its a crying call.
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Old 11-23-2007, 08:54 PM
pete fabrizio pete fabrizio is offline
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Default Re: HU 25/50 really weird spot deep

i think it's a fold, although it's obviously closer if he's in a weird mood. 1) a big part of his range is something like a small/medium flush with 2 pair or a set. 2) from his perspective, it's pretty unlikely that you have the nut flush, and the king of spades on the turn makes it even less so. 3) he probably expects you to play AA exactly the way you did here, and there are more combinations of AAxx here than there are of Kcxcxx -- especially since a lot of the latter either won't raise preflop or won't 3-bet the flop. 4) you'd like to think these combine to mean he'll be putting big moves on you, but more often than not i find it means he's just going to commit his stack with a weaker holding (which still has you crushed). since he probably doesn't expect you to fold AA, he probably has it beat.
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Old 11-23-2007, 09:12 PM
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Default Re: HU 25/50 really weird spot deep

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he probably expects you to play AA exactly the way you did here

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what????

why would he ever expect me to play AAxx like this when its this deep? or ever really?
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Old 11-23-2007, 09:29 PM
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Default Re: HU 25/50 really weird spot deep

1. Work on your game selection skills.
2. I don't mind your line, but I would be betting full pot on turn to commit myself should he decide to take it to the felt.
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Old 11-24-2007, 08:52 PM
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Default Re: HU 25/50 really weird spot deep

I didn't read the other replies but I would imagine he has a q-high or J-high flush with a set here. Maybe QcTc8x8x, maybe? I think it's a fold.
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Old 11-24-2007, 09:08 PM
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Default Re: HU 25/50 really weird spot deep

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I didn't read the other replies but I would imagine he has a q-high or J-high flush with a set here. Maybe QcTc8x8x, maybe? I think it's a fold.

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i think your read makes a ton of sense but brian has been losing a lot lately and brian does have tilt issues.

it really wouldnt surprise me if brian is over playing 888........going for a big pot knockout blow. it wouldnt surprise me that brian believes gordo has a flush and brian is trying to get lucky with a full house draw.

ive watched a few of these matches but i never saw this hand. i say gordo had him all the way.

and i'm still going with my twighlight zone read here and maybe putting brian on 2 red kings here too. i know, stupid read but i seen brian get really stupid when he tilts. the only difference between now and "then".......he doesnt suckout from the twighlight zone like he used to.
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Old 11-26-2007, 11:37 PM
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Default Re: HU 25/50 really weird spot deep

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and i'm still going with my twighlight zone read here and maybe putting brian on 2 red kings here too. i know, stupid read but i seen brian get really stupid when he tilts. the only difference between now and "then".......he doesnt suckout from the twighlight zone like he used to.

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He will never, never have two red kings here unless he has a flush to go along with them.
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Old 11-23-2007, 09:42 PM
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Default Re: HU 25/50 really weird spot deep

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he probably expects you to play AA exactly the way you did here

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what????

why would he ever expect me to play AAxx like this when its this deep? or ever really?

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are you saying you wouldn't?
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Old 11-23-2007, 10:14 PM
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Default Re: HU 25/50 really weird spot deep

yes, obviously. do you always felt when you flop a set on a flush board? I mean, that truly doesnt make any sense...
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Old 11-24-2007, 04:44 AM
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yes, obviously. do you always felt when you flop a set on a flush board? I mean, that truly doesnt make any sense...

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I think there are a lot of reasons to play top set very aggressively on the flush board, and would expect others to do the same.
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