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Old 11-03-2007, 04:09 PM
JDalla JDalla is offline
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Default rediculously big 10/20 pot

biggest pot I've ever played I think in terms of big bets. Anyone think I should have capped the turn? At that point I was worried about T9 and a nut flush draw out there so I just called.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, MP calls, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, MP calls, CO calls, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (20 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO caps</font>, SB calls, Hero calls, UTG calls, MP calls.

Turn: (19 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, SB folds, Hero calls, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP caps</font>, CO calls, Hero calls, UTG calls.

River: (33 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero calls, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP 3-bets</font>, CO calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 39.75 BB
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Old 11-03-2007, 04:18 PM
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Default Re: rediculously big 10/20 pot

I'm folding preflop and don't think its particularly close. Bad relative position and a dominated hand, yay. After that, shrug, its all sort of fine, I'd check/cap it on the flop hoping in vain to clean up King outs. River seems like a good one for you, maybe better than a club (hello UTG).

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Old 11-03-2007, 04:28 PM
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Default Re: rediculously big 10/20 pot

^

What he said...sorry that you lost to J9
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Old 11-03-2007, 04:44 PM
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Default Re: rediculously big 10/20 pot

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I'm folding preflop and don't think its particularly close. Bad relative position and a dominated hand, yay. After that, shrug, its all sort of fine, I'd check/cap it on the flop hoping in vain to clean up King outs. River seems like a good one for you, maybe better than a club (hello UTG).

-DeathDonkey

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I used to always fold this but I see so many regulars at higher stakes coldcalling 2 bets with suited or connected cards that I figured this kind of multiway mayhem could create a +ev situation for my K9s. Perhaps not.


and I didn't lose to J9 btw.
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Old 11-03-2007, 04:56 PM
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Default Re: rediculously big 10/20 pot

Really? Lucky you...they always have J9 against me there.

Id sooner CC mid suited connectors there than k9, think most would agree
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Old 11-03-2007, 05:01 PM
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Default Re: rediculously big 10/20 pot

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and I didn't lose to J9 btw.

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lol pls tell me u scooped
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Old 11-03-2007, 05:05 PM
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Default Re: rediculously big 10/20 pot

dude cap the turn , its not even close. You missed out on serious money.

Your like 20-40% likely behind on the turn, and you have 4 people in the pot and a huge redraw ... Im pretty sure your pot equity is much greater than 25%

On the river just call, cause its extremly likely you are 3 way chopping and a small chance someone has J9.

preflops a fold.

The only reason I think its okay to call 2 bets cold (or even cap) in the BB with suited connectors OCCASIOANLLY, is to widen your distribution and make people pay off your strong hands that you cold cap.
Only worthwhile against very tough and observant opponents.
A dominated suited hand is probabily not worth it.
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Old 11-03-2007, 05:21 PM
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Default Re: rediculously big 10/20 pot

Heis,

Im playing so I cant run it though stove...but given the(high) likelyhood of another FD being out there, that may well make it close enough that a cap isnt worth it.

Ill run it later
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Old 11-03-2007, 05:29 PM
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Heis,

Im playing so I cant run it though stove...but given the(high) likelyhood of another FD being out there, that may well make it close enough that a cap isnt worth it.

Ill run it later

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there isnt another flush draw out there
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Old 11-03-2007, 05:34 PM
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Default Re: rediculously big 10/20 pot

yes there is and it's likely exactly AcQc when UTG caps preflop and coldcalls one million bets on the turn.
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