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Old 08-14-2007, 09:02 AM
SpecT SpecT is offline
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Default 100NL - Bluff gone right... kinda

villain is unknown. Thought I could rep a mid pp preflop/on the flop, then set on the turn. Plus I have 6 dirty outs that I was hoping to just check behind on the river if I hit. So yeah, I think I played every street weirdly (poorly???) and I'm also not sure what to do on the river. I was thinking maybe he has a low 2pair that's blocking?


Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $111.56
BB: $212.82
UTG: $179.62
CO: $109.90
Hero (BTN): $165.12

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $4.00</font>, Hero calls $4.00, 2 folds

Flop: ($9.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets $6.00</font>, Hero calls $6.00

Turn: ($21.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets $7.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $32.00</font>, CO calls $25.00

River: ($85.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets $32.00</font>, Hero ???
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Old 08-14-2007, 09:17 AM
Asheh Asheh is offline
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Default Re: 100NL - Bluff gone right... kinda

wtf spew.

Raise on button? I dont like the flop call with air, and turn raise with air. The co has already shown strength so why are you trying to rep a stronger hand?
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Old 08-14-2007, 09:21 AM
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Default Re: 100NL - Bluff gone right... kinda

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wtf spew.

Raise on button? I dont like the flop call with air, and turn raise with air. The co has already shown strength so why are you trying to rep a stronger hand?

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yeah i usually 3bet this.

anywayz, i think this is a pretty easy board to represent a monster (22/44/88/J8/mayb AJ) and he bet 1/3 pot on the turn, id hardly call that strength, id call it 'squeezing value with a weakish made hand'

edit - someone i was just talking to said shove river. I never even considered that. thoughts?
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Old 08-14-2007, 09:23 AM
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Default Re: 100NL - Bluff gone right... kinda

This looks kind of spewy, and I would just fold the river.
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Old 08-14-2007, 09:33 AM
ValarMorghulis ValarMorghulis is offline
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Default Re: 100NL - Bluff gone right... kinda

Pretty much hate the hand but I shove river as I think he often has a Jack here.
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Old 08-14-2007, 09:35 AM
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Pretty much hate the hand but I shove river as I think he often has a Jack here.

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Shoving this river for value is terrible.
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Old 08-14-2007, 10:01 AM
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Default Re: 100NL - Bluff gone right... kinda

in general, you are committing suicide v an unknown here. why?

villain also played the hand weirdly. i think he has a jack at least. i think overall his range is ahead, but you are getting almost 4-1, so i think a crying call is in order
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Old 08-14-2007, 10:02 AM
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Default Re: 100NL - Bluff gone right... kinda

shoving the river is terrible, i almost suggested it as a joke, so the OP can misplay every street
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Old 08-14-2007, 12:39 PM
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Default Re: 100NL - Bluff gone right... kinda

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shoving the river is terrible, i almost suggested it as a joke, so the OP can misplay every street

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lol, u guys are tripping. shoving the river would be the best thing OP could do in this hand. bad TAG's and fish love to half pot block bet the river with hands like AJ, QJ, QQ and TT, the thing is they are never good enough to actually fold to a push. THAT is why you almost never bluff shove here, which means conversely that value shoving is sweet. i think you might be surprised to see how often you will stack someone too stubborn to let their hand go, bcoz "there's no way this guy can have a king [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]"
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Old 08-14-2007, 12:41 PM
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Default Re: 100NL - Bluff gone right... kinda

i should note however that i dont lilke pf, flop or turn much at all. but meh, no crime against experimenting with different lines. just make sure not to be a repeat offendor, remember the three strike policy SpecT [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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