100NL - too thin?

[SpecT]

basically just wonderin about the river. villain is 36/26 over 30 hands and hasnt folded to a cbet yet.

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $73.95
BB: $120.00
UTG: $61.50
CO: $89.45
Hero (BTN): $101.90

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3.50</font>, SB calls $3.00, BB folds

Flop: ($8) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $6.00</font>, SB calls $6.00

Turn: ($20) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $13.50</font>, SB calls $13.50

River: ($47) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $20.00</font>, <font color="red">SB raises all-in to $50.95</font>, Hero folds

Pot Size: $117.95

[Casper05]

the 4 is gorgeous, the [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] not so much. I think this is good though.

[ikestoys]

if you are going to fold to c/r, you should be checking river

[dragonystic]

$20 on the turn. charge those draws.

i really hate this $20 river b/f. either shove it or just check.

[DanJ.]

id check behind, but if it wasnt [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] id shove.

[Bulletproof Monk]

i agree with shove or check.

bet/fold sucks here because it puts you in a situation to make a big mistake

[SpecT]

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bet/fold sucks here because it puts you in a situation to make a big mistake

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he calls the river bet with everything we beat, he raises with everything that beats us. i dont see him doing this with a bluff/worse hand. the only thing shoving does is folds out more hands we beat/commits us against the hands that beat us.

is my thinking wrong?

[Bulletproof Monk]

the problem here is that given pot odds on the river you need to be ahead ~20% of the time to make the call.

also comparing to checking behind, you are risking making a $120 mistake, for a potential $20 gain. i cant really be bothered doing the maths, but thats just intuitively bad imo

given a good enough read i guess it could potentially be ok, but really:

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villain is 36/26 over 30 hands

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i just hate this

[xxPsychonautxx]

actually I dont see many hands we beat and he calls.
Same with the shove. What can it force to lay down we dont beat?
I would bet more on the turn and check behind in the river.

to weak?




I would also bet more an the turn.

[Womble]

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if you are going to fold to c/r, you should be checking river

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Your too committed to b/f the river