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Old 11-07-2007, 03:00 AM
Killingbird Killingbird is offline
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Default FTP $28K Deep - AK in the BB with lots of action in front

Table has been very aggro, but not so much the two villains...

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Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t2000/t4000
(Ante: t500)
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t105746
UTG+1: t40810
MP1: t167598
MP2: t75782
CO: t51808
Button: t17450
SB: t70381
Hero: t80103

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to t40000</font>, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 raises to t76000</font>, 4 folds,

HERO?
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Old 11-07-2007, 03:04 AM
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Default Re: FTP $28K Deep - AK in the BB with lots of action in front

This is a push imo.

UTG+1's M is 4, so his opening range should be quite wide.
The MP1 raise looks scary at first glance, but he just sets everyone behind him all-in. So I don't think that this shows a super tight range.

Furthermore your M is down to 8 as well and this is a great time to nearly triple up.
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Old 11-07-2007, 03:17 AM
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Default Re: FTP $28K Deep - AK in the BB with lots of action in front

I fold.

Firstly you mentioned these two guys haven't been getting out of line. Secondly with the image they have been giving off I am not a fan of calling off my tournament life vs a raise and a re-raise with an unmade hand.

If an aggro player had made that re-raise then yes, i push all day, but in this spot i think fold.
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Old 11-07-2007, 09:42 AM
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Default Re: FTP $28K Deep - AK in the BB with lots of action in front

Clear call.
UTG+1s range should be very wide here {say 25% but it probably should be wider}. MP1 can isolate with at the absolutely very tightest 99+,AQ, &amp; surely wider than that. With those ranges your 49% for the sidepot (72K) &amp; 34% for the mainpot (126K)
0.49(72) + 0.34(126) = 78K. Folding = 75.5K. Calling is +EV.
And in reality your edge is bigger because I can't see MP1 not isolating, with eg AJ. Including just AJ gives 0.53(72) + 0.37(126) = 83.5 = 11% more than your chip stack if folding. Yes, passing here is giving up a 10+% edge.
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Old 11-07-2007, 12:04 PM
M1cKmAcK M1cKmAcK is offline
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Default Re: FTP $28K Deep - AK in the BB with lots of action in front

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This is a push imo.

UTG+1's M is 4, so his opening range should be quite wide.
The MP1 raise looks scary at first glance, but he just sets everyone behind him all-in. So I don't think that this shows a super tight range.

Furthermore your M is down to 8 as well and this is a great time to nearly triple up.

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btw emery is amaaaaazing. listening to them right now [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 11-07-2007, 02:12 PM
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Default Re: FTP $28K Deep - AK in the BB with lots of action in front

its a push. big stack is iso-ing fairly wide here. his min-reraise would mean more if there was an actual stack behind him.

unless you've seen him play big pairs like this before (open minraise pre, reminraising it, etc) its a push.
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Old 11-07-2007, 02:25 PM
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Default Re: FTP $28K Deep - AK in the BB with lots of action in front

What would Barry say?
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:11 PM
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Default Re: FTP $28K Deep - AK in the BB with lots of action in front

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[ QUOTE ]
This is a push imo.

UTG+1's M is 4, so his opening range should be quite wide.
The MP1 raise looks scary at first glance, but he just sets everyone behind him all-in. So I don't think that this shows a super tight range.

Furthermore your M is down to 8 as well and this is a great time to nearly triple up.

[/ QUOTE ]

btw emery is amaaaaazing. listening to them right now [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

nice, they are one of my favorite bands and some really good friends as well!
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:12 PM
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Default Re: FTP $28K Deep - AK in the BB with lots of action in front

appreciate all the feedback guys. I folded and kicked my self when the original raiser turned over A6 and the reraiser had AQ. AK was good. ugh. Live and learn.
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