Good shove/bad shove??

tvta · #1 10-02-2007, 05:37 PM

74/20/1.2 villian.

Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $85.30
CO: $54.80
Hero: $49.25
SB: $73.25
BB: $21.10

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG raises to $1.75, CO folds, Hero calls, 2 folds.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($4.25, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $3, UTG raises to $13.25, Hero raises to $47, UTG raises to $88, Hero calls all-in $3.5.
Uncalled bets: $37.5 returned to UTG.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($105.25, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $105.25)

River: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($105.25, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $105.25)

Results:
Final pot: $105.25

JackInDaCrak · #2 10-02-2007, 05:43 PM

this is ok, obviously dangerous with the flush draw though.

Stop being results-oriented.

sqwisssssss · #3 10-02-2007, 05:45 PM

seems ok to me if your the agro type. good hand.

Elrazor · #4 10-02-2007, 05:54 PM

pretty standard, you dont really want to see AAxx with diamonds here, but even if you do you still have outs - i just stoved the worst case TTxxw/d and you still have just over 30% equity. i think even if you call the flop bet and shove the nice turn here villan will call with his flop-repotting range hands

ArgusSpets · #5 10-02-2007, 06:24 PM

but isnt that the optimal play, to call his flop crai and then wait what he does on the various turns? because were in position and can fire almost any card when checked to?

sqwisssssss · #6 10-02-2007, 07:33 PM

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but isnt that the optimal play, to call his flop crai and then wait what he does on the various turns? because were in position and can fire almost any card when checked to?

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mmmmmmm, but if villan bets pot on turn and you miss, you just about have to call because of the strength of your hand and the equity already involved.......so, you might as well stack off on the flop and look at 5 cards.

if the turn is a diamond, it might slow the villan down and you possibly might not get fully paid off for your hand.

its not the greatest stack off situation but its definately not a loser in the long run, so get your chips in there and go for the ride.

Elrazor · #7 10-03-2007, 04:20 AM

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but isnt that the optimal play, to call his flop crai and then wait what he does on the various turns? because were in position and can fire almost any card when checked to?

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you are right here if Villan is a nit but generally people who run with these stats just dont lay down on the turn whatever comes