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Old 09-04-2007, 03:43 PM
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Default Re: NL25 TPTK facing donk 3 bet

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I definitely wouldn't be wanting to commit on this flop therefore I wouldn't have raised.

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why no commit?

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I think you have too much behind to get it AI profitably unless you have a lovely read.

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so just call flop? what if villian bets 1/2 pot on turn then what?

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A blank turn?

You can probably call there too. It depends on his bet size. If he bets again on the turn I wouldn't change his range much from the flop.

If he checks the turn you can probably check with intention of calling unless you have a read that he is passive and will not raise without a better hand AND will not bet big on the river without one. In that case you can make a half to 3/4 size bet and probably check behind on the river.
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Old 09-04-2007, 04:45 PM
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Default Re: NL25 TPTK facing donk 3 bet

Help me understand the purpose for raising this flop. (I'm yet another one of those limit players making the transition to NL.) I can see some reasons to do it, for example:

1) Raise for value (if he will call the raise on a draw without proper odds or with a worse hand)
2) Take back control of the betting
3) Make a better hand fold (not very likely)

What about just calling the flop, and bet the turn if checked to, or even check behind for pot control?
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Old 09-04-2007, 06:57 PM
ElectricWaffles ElectricWaffles is offline
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Default Re: NL25 TPTK facing donk 3 bet

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If he checks the turn you can probably check with intention of calling unless you have a read that he is passive and will not raise without a better hand AND will not bet big on the river without one. In that case you can make a half to 3/4 size bet and probably check behind on the river.

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Would that not be letting a flush draw see a free card though?
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Old 09-04-2007, 07:04 PM
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Default Re: NL25 TPTK facing donk 3 bet

It is a tough spot that I think was made worse by the raise on the flop. Both of you are real deep and I don't think you want to invest that much on your TPTK. I would call flop and plan to call a small bet on turn. Then kick the dog when he shows a set or two pair.
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