Can i really fold QQ here???

[scatt_man]

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fold pre-flop or bet the flop please...

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why would you want to lead out this flop ... going for a c/r on the flop or turn is the best play cause you get a cont bet outta it

[scatt_man]

Results:

I c/r he calls turn is a 9 i push the rest he calls he shows AA

[fees]

minraise imo

[scatt_man]

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minraise imo

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then what is you play on the turn? push

[LiveNow]

i thought this flop was a standard c/r....please tell me this is a standard c/r?

[scatt_man]

ya i agree that this is a c/r ... just wanted to see what people thought

[Rolon]

These spots suck because like you said, you can't hope for a better flop (w/o flopping a set) but at the same time, you are normally only getting your money in when the guy has KK/AA. Most half decent people are able to fold 99/10/JJ- the only hands you are beating.

At the same time, if you are c/f this flop then you are pretty exploitable. If you C/R then like I said before you are normally only getting your money in behind. I sort of like C/C and then checking the turn as well, hoping to induce a bluff from the other hands you beat (AK, AQ, small PP's, etc.)

[scatt_man]

so on the turn if he bets again we fold right?

[Rolon]

Eh, fold the turn like 20% of the time. Like I said, its a tough spot and your probably going to get stacked like 40% of the time. I'd say you get it all in 80% of the time here.

[uminchu]

i think this is a situation where you can 4 bet him preflop, to say thirty five or so and if he shoves, you can fold, unless you think he shoves AK in which case you have to call, but by four betting you narrow his range to exactly KK AA and AKs(maybe)