Do you gamble here?

[tomek322]

I think I insta call... and expect the QJ and be live outs as well.

[Kyle Flynn]

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Well you said in your description that villain hadn't been getting out of line so I doubt he's in there w/ a weak ace you can move him off. If he got an ace, it's probably a decent one and he's calling your flop c/r. Also by checking you're giving him the oppertunity to make this play. If he check behind that's not great either because if you miss what are you planning on doing on the turn? Lead? what do you do if he calls and you miss on the river as well. just bet the flop, the pot is big enough in relation to your stack to take down right away.

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nice post. well said.

[HorridSludgyBits]

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but hadn't been out of line. He had shoved on my button raises from his BB a couple of times.

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How can you know he hasn't been out of line, especially since he's pushed at least four times on you including this time? If you have Ax, then you'd lead this flop to protect your hand, so he sees a chance to push you off. This seems like a pretty standard bullying move from a guy who's been active on the bubble. You also can't completely discount a hand like 9c8c.

Even without the possibility that he's bluffing/semi-bluffing, the 12 outs give you adequate pot odds by themselves. Call.

[TexRef]

I probably open-push this flop... You have 12 outs to what is almost certainly the nuts (unless he has Kx of clubs).

As played, I don't see how you can fold this. But I think that you have to at LEAST bet the flop. To me open shoving here >>> betting and calling a push.