$50 QQ with PF action

[black666]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO (t2560)
Button (t3230)
SB (t3050)
BB (t3910)
UTG (t8800)
UTG+1 (t2820)
MP1 (t2630)
MP2 (t2850)
Hero (t2590)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls t20, UTG+1 calls t20, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t120</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t120, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG calls t100, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t600</font>, MP1 calls t480, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ...</font>

The first call was probably a mistake but I wanted to make my hand look like a small to medium PP. What really throws me off is the re-raise from UTG+1. I'm familiar with the AA/KK UTG limp, but an overlimp?? After MP1 called, I'm not too much worried about him. What is my next action? A call seems bad..so that leaves me with push or fold. What is UTG+1's range here? Seems a bit early for a squeeze, doesn't it?

[MonkeyButler]

First thing, I do agree with you already realizing that you should've reraised initially, this way if you get a re-re-raise from UTG+1, then you know a LITTLE bit more about the hand, most likely AA or KK. I have read and seen this move before, the overlimp, reraise. What some top players are doing is overlimping, because newbies are overusing the squeeze play b/c they just finished reading Harrington's Volume II. Seasoned players are willing to risk the possible multi-way pot with AA or KK so that when someone does the auto-squeeze in LP, they're ready to pop it again. Hard to say, but you have to either push or fold. Calling isn't going to help you at all, other than building a larger pot that's even harder to get away from. Also, calling will enable amazing odds to those to act behind you.

It's real early in the tourney, I say fold - you misplayed the initial raise and left yourself hanging. Wait around for another spot.

[hamnegger]

i shove there is a big overlay and he doesn't have aa kk here enough to do anythijng but shove. your flat call creating a volume pot turns qq into a flop a set hand.u could lose a lot of chips to all drawing hands when a k or ace doesnt hit

[Cornell Fiji]

stop looking for monsters under the bed

or

stop being results oriented

[Mench]

shove.

[black666]

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stop looking for monsters under the bed
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stop being results oriented

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I'm not (because I've won the pot). I'm just looking for a range for an UTG+1 overlimp-reraise. I pushed because I thought he was squeezing with a medium PP.

I've just started playing the $50 MTTs..so I don't know if this was a spew or good play - therefore the post.

[Cornell Fiji]

You should have raised the first time around and this is a very easy shove as played.

People don't really overlimp QQ+. you have a dominant hand almost always

[illini43]

This is an easy re-raise the first time, and as played, an easy push.

Just calling with QQ the 1st time around invites the other limpers into the pot, which is bad for a hand that doesn't fair too well in a family pot.

As to UTG+1's re-raise, this is almost never AA/KK. The thing that tips this off is the overlimp, which has been noted. Hands like this are normally something like 77-JJ, AK that someone decided to wake up and start raising.

If you ran into KK-AA and sucked out, villian is a moron.

[SuperUberBob]

Shove. This is so rarely AA or KK. This is more likely Ax or a hand like TT.

[ChipSpeak]

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Shove. This is so rarely AA or KK. This is more likely Ax or a hand like TT.

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Agreed, ez shove, even easier rr pf... don't do that again, you are playing with fire inviting that many to see a flop with that hand.

Uberbob... avatar? it was a beauty, I'll miss it