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Re: The immigration issue (YouTube Republican debate)
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Just to confirm: illegal (excuse me dennis kucinich, undocumented) immigrants pay taxes? Is that a fact, jack? [/ QUOTE ] Yes they do. That is why they get false SS cards. So they can get jobs. It has been all over the news about employers getting letters from the SSA every month advising them that the ss number they gave does not match the name of the person. There are states that passed laws requiring employers to resolve the issue and the ALCU and AFL-CIO sued them. |
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Re: The immigration issue (YouTube Republican debate)
Okay, I didn't mean just income taxes.
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Re: The immigration issue (YouTube Republican debate)
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Okay, I didn't mean just income taxes. [/ QUOTE ] Well they obviously pay sales tax. And if they rent or buy houses, they pay tax on that too. |
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Re: The immigration issue (YouTube Republican debate)
So what's everyone bitching about then? I always assumed illegals didn't pay taxes.
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Re: The immigration issue (YouTube Republican debate)
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So what's everyone bitching about then? [/ QUOTE ] Some combination of "smell brown people, I don't like them, they're probably going to rob me" and "THEY TOOK ARRR JERBS"? |
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Re: The immigration issue (YouTube Republican debate)
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[ QUOTE ] So what's everyone bitching about then? [/ QUOTE ] Some combination of "smell brown people, I don't like them, they're probably going to rob me" and "THEY TOOK ARRR JERBS"? [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, the problem is, at least some of the time, this last complaint is entirely true. So I get to suffer because some douchebag is (legitimately) afraid of being outcompeted. Sucks for me. |
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Re: The immigration issue (YouTube Republican debate)
is there any discussion of reforming the path for legal citizenship?
Also, aside from security issues, is there truely any justifiable reason to dislike immigration? I ask people "Why should I want a random american whom i've never met have better opportunities than a random foreigner living in america whom i've never met?" I'm usually met with blank stares. |
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Re: The immigration issue (YouTube Republican debate)
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is there any discussion of reforming the path for legal citizenship? Also, aside from security issues, is there truely any justifiable reason to dislike immigration? I ask people "Why should I want a random american whom i've never met have better opportunities than a random foreigner living in america whom i've never met?" I'm usually met with blank stares. [/ QUOTE ] You're just not genetically wired like most. For instance, most humans believe in a God, while those wired differently do not. You probably do not have a "love for country" and deep appreciation of what our soldiers who died in WWII sacrificed. There are many people like you. They do not see the U.S.A. as a country they love, but merely an opportunity. Their primary goal in life is to be a successful capitalist and giving to charity without self-benefit is looked upon by them with scorn. Others are wired differently. Your type of philosophy is what was needed in generals in the military during WWII....it was easier for them to send a bunch of random Americans into a battle knowing half of them would not come out alive. |
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Re: The immigration issue (YouTube Republican debate)
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is there any discussion of reforming the path for legal citizenship? Also, aside from security issues, is there truely any justifiable reason to dislike immigration? I ask people "Why should I want a random american whom i've never met have better opportunities than a random foreigner living in america whom i've never met?" I'm usually met with blank stares. [/ QUOTE ] No kidding. I think it is basically 'patriotic' (whatever that is- and this is coming from soneone who used to have 'it' at least to some degree) brainwashing. It is a vague concept that is I think hard to articulate, and most people who 'have it' have never even reasoned why they should have it and why it is better than other ways of looking at the world and the human population of the world, let alone actively debated why it is superior. I think it will all come down to rhetoric if they tried. When I asked my father a similar question a while back during a discussion about immigration (mine was why should I care about a random person born in locatioin A more than a random person born in location B?) His acutal response was: "I don't even know what that means." LOL |
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Re: The immigration issue (YouTube Republican debate)
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So what's everyone bitching about then? I always assumed illegals didn't pay taxes. [/ QUOTE ] Exactly. And of course its convenient to preted like they dont pay taxes so that we can kick them all out for other reasons. |
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