Don't be this guy

[loosemmjan]

Like all things poker in it just depends.

I played a tourney in Vegas and announced a raise of 150.

I tossed in 125 mistakingly, upon noticing the the mistake I then proceeded to toss in another 25.

The dealer tossed the 25 back saying the bet was 125.00, thus overriding my verbal raise.

I didn't argue the table didn't seem to care. It wasn't a string bet, I was just trying to make the pot right. I don't know what the dealer was thinking.

So... you can never depend on the human element being consistent.

~loose

[KurtSF]

[ QUOTE ]


I don't think that was what was goign on here, but where would these "in front of cards" guys like a player to count his own chips?

[/ QUOTE ]

Just a shot in the dark here, but I'm going to go with "behind their cards".

[RR]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]


I don't think that was what was goign on here, but where would these "in front of cards" guys like a player to count his own chips?

[/ QUOTE ]

Just a shot in the dark here, but I'm going to go with "behind their cards".

[/ QUOTE ]

That is where the chips are normally stacked up. Perhaps they should put there cards out a foot where the dealer can easily take them from them?

[Percula]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]


I don't think that was what was goign on here, but where would these "in front of cards" guys like a player to count his own chips?

[/ QUOTE ]

Just a shot in the dark here, but I'm going to go with "behind their cards".

[/ QUOTE ]

That is where the chips are normally stacked up. Perhaps they should put there cards out a foot where the dealer can easily take them from them?

[/ QUOTE ]

With a big heavy card cap, yes. Just about every dealer knows not to muck cards with anything on top of them.

[IndyGuy]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]


I don't think that was what was goign on here, but where would these "in front of cards" guys like a player to count his own chips?

[/ QUOTE ]

Just a shot in the dark here, but I'm going to go with "behind their cards".

[/ QUOTE ]

That puts players in the 1 or 10 seats at a disadvantage, since to effectively cut out chips behind their cards would leave the cards exposed for the dealer to mistakenly swipe. Of course, they could put a chip on the cards to protect them, but isn't that then a call via these nit rules?

[pfapfap]

[ QUOTE ]
That puts players in the 1 or 10 seats at a disadvantage, since to effectively cut out chips behind their cards would leave the cards exposed for the dealer to mistakenly swipe. Of course, they could put a chip on the cards to protect them, but isn't that then a call via these nit rules?

[/ QUOTE ]

Ooh, I like where this is going.

"His cards are pushed forward! It's a muck! There's a chip on the cards that went past the betting line! It's a call! Muck! Call! Muck! Call! AAAAAAHHHHH!!""

* head asplode *

[KurtSF]

[ QUOTE ]
Any rule that forces a player to do something other than what he clearly inteded to do is a bad rule.

[/ QUOTE ]

Oh, and I agree with this. With the exception of when what they intend to do is an angle shot, of course. But in general if its clear to everyone what the intended action is it should stand.

I think this is generally recognized, and leads the the arbitrary enforcement of the rules by dealers that want players to be comfortable, which is, in the end, worse than not having the rules.

[RR]

[ QUOTE ]
Oh, and I agree with this. With the exception of when what they intend to do is an angle shot, of course.

[/ QUOTE ]

Well I really would like a shot a dealing with angle shooters. I think the best way to deal with them is to just not deal with them. "I'm sorry sir, but you cannot play poker here anymore. You are more than welcome to play any of the other games the casino offers." When you start introducing more rules you create more opportunites for angle shooters, not fewer.

[GreedIsGood]

[ QUOTE ]
... No sir, that's just total BS, that's not a real rule, and everybody in this poker room is WRONG.

But then he keeps going... "I'm sick of this bull. All the time people keep using me to make an example of. Over and over it's 'that's a string bet' or 'you broke this rule' or 'you checked' when I didn't mean to. I'm just sick of this. Not just this time here, but over and over it keeps happening."

...

[/ QUOTE ]

You have to love someone who in one breath says that that's not the rule and in the next complains that he's called on it everywhere.

[ChrisConstantine]

This is one of the many reasons why automated tables can be better for tournaments and NL games.